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RRC-Micro PC Client in English => General discussion => Topic started by: DF1NP on 2011-05-18, 00:21:21

Title: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: DF1NP on 2011-05-18, 00:21:21
Hi,

Does any other software works as the slow HRD with RRC-Micro PC-Client? I prefere the excellent ICOM Software RS-BA1 for my IC-7600 using C-IV Mode. At the same time I will control my rotor on COM 1 and my Expert 1K-Fa on COM 2.
Or shall I use RRC1258MKII on control- and radio-site?

tks Willi
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: roland on 2011-05-20, 08:49:09
We are current looking into support for the ICOM RS-BA1
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: DF1NP on 2011-05-20, 17:28:07
tks, Roland

73 Willi
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: roland on 2011-05-25, 19:55:27
tks, Roland

73 Willi

A beta 1.3.0 beta 1, which supports ICOM RS-BA1 has been published
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: LA7THA on 2011-06-16, 22:50:54
Hey

Just wonder, are we far away to have support for TRX-Manager ?


73 Rune LA7THA
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: roland on 2011-06-22, 14:52:12
Not all. It was released today :)
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: rockyjones on 2011-06-28, 03:03:02
Roland I can't seem to get TRX-Manager to work with this release.  It comes up with a COM port error thinking the COM port is 0 (zero).  HRD still works if I select HRD for the "software" setting.

Any Ideas?  Anyone else tried TRX-Manager and have it working?

Joe W4WT

Update:  Here is the error I receive from TRX-Manager.... "Initialization error - COM PORT (IC-756PRO3):Invalid port number (0)".  I have the COM port set to 3 in TRX-Manager Setup.  RRC Micro is set to use Com0 port as Com3 for the Icom radio.  I'm running 2.40 in the RRC-1258 box.

Update2:  I re-installed version 1.2.1 which I used successfully before and it worked fine for HRD.  This also made me see that HRD is very sluggish with the new release 1.3.1...  it will work without error but very slowly.
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: roland on 2011-06-28, 09:01:28
Roland I can't seem to get TRX-Manager to work with this release.  It comes up with a COM port error thinking the COM port is 0 (zero).  HRD still works if I select HRD for the "software" setting.
Any Ideas?  Anyone else tried TRX-Manager and have it working?
Update:  Here is the error I receive from TRX-Manager.... "Initialization error - COM PORT (IC-756PRO3):Invalid port number (0)".  I have the COM port set to 3 in TRX-Manager Setup.  RRC Micro is set to use Com0 port as Com3 for the Icom radio.  I'm running 2.40 in the RRC-1258 box.

Did you select the "Microbit RRCMicro" in your Com-selection?
See New software for the RRC-Micro PC client released (v1.3.1) (http://www.remoterig.com/forum/index.php?topic=840.0)

Update2:  I re-installed version 1.2.1 which I used successfully before and it worked fine for HRD.  This also made me see that HRD is very sluggish with the new release 1.3.1...  it will work without error but very slowly.
Did you remember to select the old Com port driver then?


Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: rockyjones on 2011-06-28, 20:41:26
"Did you select the "Microbit RRCMicro" in your Com-selection? "

Yes, this is the driver that was loaded and selected in the profile for RRC-Micro when I installed 1.3.1.  I just installed 1.3.1 again and opened the profile, updated it from the 1.2.1 settings to make sure that I had done it correctly the first time.  TRX-Manager failed again just like it did the first time I installed 1.3.1.  The first message I get is a Windows message which said essentially that TRX-Manager had stopped working and Windows would check for a solution and notify me when it found one.  If I continue to try to start TRX-Manager, I eventually get the message about Com port 0 (zero) as I indicated earlier.  Also, as I indicated, HRD works but very sluggishly taking about 30 seconds when it starts up to read the radio and adjust all the sliders to the proper settings.

"Did you remember to select the old Com port driver then?"

Yes, I had deleted the new drivers and 1.3.1 program prior to going back and re-installing 1.2.1.  As I said, when I went back to 1.2.1 it worked properly as it had when I used it prior to installing 1.3.1.

Joe W4WT


Update:  I just installed RRC-Micro and TRX-Manager on a different laptop.  Neither program has ever been installed on this laptop so it was a clean install for both products.  I set up "Micro" profiles for TRX-Manager and HRD.  I started up "Micro" with the TRX-Manager profile, clicked "Connect" and it connected to my remote RRC-1258 with no problem.  I then started up TRX-Manager and experienced exactly the same error condition I did on the original laptop after setting the Com port in TRX-Manager to Com 3 and the transceiver to the Icom Pro III.  I have Com 3 mapped to Com 0 in the TRX-Manager profile of "Micro".

Joe W4WT
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: roland on 2011-06-28, 21:46:44
Ok. Are you running XP or Win7 (32 or 64).
On Win7 TRX-Manager must have 'Privilege level' set to 'Run as administrator' and also 'Compability mode' set to 'Windows XP (Service Pack 3)'
If you still fails, please Enable Debug in RRMicro for the COM you are using. Restart and repeat the error. End program and send the file 'mblog.txt' in your Documents Folder to me.
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: rockyjones on 2011-06-29, 01:26:59
I am running Windows 7.  I have TRX-Manager installed on a desktop computer running with the RRC-1258 pair (not Micro) and it works fine without being set for "run as administrator" nor being set for compatibility with XP.  I assume that the RRC-Micro requires this but not "in general" for TRX-Manager?

Regardless, I set "run as administrator" and compatibility as XP sp3 and this stopped the error on both laptops but neither laptop would communicate with the RRC-1258 remote box/radio.  TRX-Manager could not read the frequency or set anything on the radio.  

Since I have the same problem on two different computers, I must assume there is a problem with the driver since each of the laptops works fine with 1.2.1 and HRD and both laptops have a problem running HRD (as well as TRX-Manager) when using the 1.3.1 release.

I can provide a copy of the debug file but I don't know if it will show anything with TRX-Manager as I don't think it is able to communicate with the Com port through the driver to even hook up with the RRC software.  I'll also try to provide a debug file running HRD.  Maybe it will show something.  I'll get these a little later this evening.

Joe W4WT
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: roland on 2011-06-29, 09:00:18
Hi Joe.

Thanks for the logfiles. In them I can see that no serial data is coming from the RRC-radio end to the driver.
Don't know the reason for that yet. I also did see some things that I must ask about.

The logfile states that you have not selected any Mic or Speaker.

AUDIO
      AudioSpeaker=
      AudioMic=


Also you have enabled all COM-channels. Is this by intention?

COM0
      ComMode0=2
      ComPort0=Microbit RRCMicro (COM3) This one is used by the program. Is this your intention?
      ComTerminator0=FD
      ComTimeout0=40
COM1
      ComMode1=3
      ComPort1=Microbit RRCMicro (COM4)
      ComTerminator1=
      ComTimeout1=40
COM2
      ComMode2=2
      ComPort2=Microbit RRCMicro (COM5)
      ComTerminator2=FD
      ComTimeout2=40


Also ComMode0=2 is used. Should be 4. Thats "4 - Kenwood, Yaseu, Elecraft". You have selected "2 - ICOM CI-V"
Here is some images from my test rig that may help. Serial cable between TR480 and RRC Com2

Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: rockyjones on 2011-06-29, 17:36:05
I have both the MIC and Speaker selected on the profile.  Not sure why it didn't show up in the debug output.  I have the RRC Micro as both speaker and mic. 

Not sure why you are saying I should select "Kenwood" and not "Icom".  I use an Icom Pro III.  Is the Micro set up such that I should be telling it to use Kenwood?  Is that what you are saying?

I have all COM channels selected because I use all COM channels (or would if TRX-Manager worked on the Micro).  I use COM 0 for the radio (Icom Pro III), I use Com 1 for the rotor, and Com 2 for the "secondary channel" (called "Synchro" by TRX-Manager) to control the Icom PW-1 to prevent collisions on the CI-V bus.  Having to do this is why I can't use HRD (no secondary port option) to operate my station and had hoped to get support for TRX-Manager/DxLabs soon so I can run the remote station "on the road" with the "Micro" as I do from home with the RRC-1258 pair.

Joe W4WT
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: roland on 2011-06-29, 18:18:30
Joe. Reading this in my cellphone on my way home from work. Sorry that I missunderstod what radio you was using. So the protocol you select is ok.
Have to come back tothis tomorrow then as my tests has been against tr-480 only.
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: roland on 2011-06-30, 14:54:36
Joe. I have not been able to find any "Icom Pro III" among our set of radio's here.
But we have an ICom IC-7000 that I can use instead. It's not available today. Hope
to get it up and running tomorrow.
 
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: LA7THA on 2011-07-01, 14:48:50
HI All

I have follow the post here and i have the same problem.

WIn 7/32
Micro software 1.3.1
Radio end software ver 2.40
Radio KW TS480
Software TRX Manager.

Micro bit "comport is 7" have the same problem cant connect to the radio.
When i start SIP all looks ok When i start TRX-Manager i got measage about com problem the same problem and error report as Joe have.

73 Rune LA7THA
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: roland on 2011-07-01, 15:13:30
Joe. I have now tested against IC-7000 with some success.
Not a complete success. Its possible to send commands to the radio from TRX-Manager
Everything seems to work nicely. However the data from the radio to TRX-Manager seems
to get lost somewhere. So we have a problem there.

I'm going for my summer vacation in an hour, but this will be my on my priority list when I come back in August.
Until it seems that you are stuck to HamRadio DeLuxe.




 
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: rockyjones on 2011-07-01, 16:54:23
Roland, I've done a lot of testing this past week and here is what I see using Icom radios (That is the only brand I have - IC-7700 and Pro III):

1:  HRD doesn't work properly with 1.3.1 or 1.3.0 with an Icom radio.  The symptom is very slow response to just about any input including when HRD loads.  On loading, the sliders take 30 seconds or more to "adjust themselves" to the current settings on the radio.  HRD does work properly with version 1.2.1 and is very responsive.  That is the version I'm running now.

2:  TRX-Manager doesn't work at all for me with any version so far.  The COM Port driver seems to still have a fault, to me, using TRX-Manager as I see COM port errors not just no receive data from the radio.

3:  When I connect to the remote unit with the Micro unit, if I want to operate VOX, I have to open Windows Control Panel, Hardware and Sound, Sound, Recording, then double click the microphone I'm using to get to properties, select Levels, then click on the "mute" icon to un-mute the microphone.  If the Micro connection times out (which it does about every 10 minutes) and I have to disconnect and reconnect, I have to go into the "Sound" area of Control Panel and once again un-mute the microphone in order to use VOX again.  Push to talk works okay as the PTT action seems to un-mute the microphone automatically but it is a real problem trying to use VOX which I use all the time.

4:  Version 2.41 of the RRC-1258 firmware causes hum in the audio of the Micro (as well as two 1258 units).  I backed down to 2.40 and that solved the problem.  Update:  This is not the case... I have an equipment problem that has just appeared and is causing the hum problem.  It just happened to disappear when I downgraded the firmware.

I hope you will look at these problems when you return from vacation.  Hope you have a good one!


Joe W4WT
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: roland on 2011-08-09, 10:35:33
Roland, I've done a lot of testing this past week and here is what I see using Icom radios (That is the only brand I have - IC-7700 and Pro III):

1:  HRD doesn't work properly with 1.3.1 or 1.3.0 with an Icom radio.  The symptom is very slow response to just about any input including when HRD loads.  On loading, the sliders take 30 seconds or more to "adjust themselves" to the current settings on the radio.  HRD does work properly with version 1.2.1 and is very responsive.  That is the version I'm running now.

2:  TRX-Manager doesn't work at all for me with any version so far.  The COM Port driver seems to still have a fault, to me, using TRX-Manager as I see COM port errors not just no receive data from the radio.

3:  When I connect to the remote unit with the Micro unit, if I want to operate VOX, I have to open Windows Control Panel, Hardware and Sound, Sound, Recording, then double click the microphone I'm using to get to properties, select Levels, then click on the "mute" icon to un-mute the microphone.  If the Micro connection times out (which it does about every 10 minutes) and I have to disconnect and reconnect, I have to go into the "Sound" area of Control Panel and once again un-mute the microphone in order to use VOX again.  Push to talk works okay as the PTT action seems to un-mute the microphone automatically but it is a real problem trying to use VOX which I use all the time.

4:  Version 2.41 of the RRC-1258 firmware causes hum in the audio of the Micro (as well as two 1258 units).  I backed down to 2.40 and that solved the problem.  Update:  This is not the case... I have an equipment problem that has just appeared and is causing the hum problem.  It just happened to disappear when I downgraded the firmware.

I hope you will look at these problems when you return from vacation.  Hope you have a good one!


Joe W4WT

Back at work. What's the state of this problem now?
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: rockyjones on 2011-08-09, 18:01:47
No change.  Still as I reported.

I noticed LA7THA posted above that this also happens with a Kenwood radio so it appears it is not limited to Icom.

Joe
Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: roland on 2011-08-10, 13:47:24
1:  HRD doesn't work properly with 1.3.1 or 1.3.0 with an Icom radio.  The symptom is very slow response to just about any input including when HRD loads.  On loading, the sliders take 30 seconds or more to "adjust themselves" to the current settings on the radio.  HRD does work properly with version 1.2.1 and is very responsive.  That is the version I'm running now.
I'm addressing this point by point. So here is the first one.
I have tested with HRD against an ICOM radio and can't reproduce what you are describing. Just to be sure that we do things the same way I have included a small video showing my test.
http://remoterig.com/videos/RRC1.3.1_HRD_ICOM700.mov (http://remoterig.com/videos/RRC1.3.1_HRD_ICOM700.mov)

Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: roland on 2011-08-11, 16:52:45
I have not found something that does not look alright. In some way the system gets in a mode where there will be serial-buffer overflows in the RRC-Box.
Haven't figured out what's going on yet. But I'm looking into this. Here is a dump from the RRC-Box
-----------
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0 buffer overflow
COM0-RX: fe fe 70 e0 16 4c fd 50 89 00 40 bc 37 fe fe 70 e0 16 4c fd 50 89 00 40 bc 37 00 40 d0 b0 03 00 c0 00 00 00 f0 00 00 00 40 d0 b0 03 00 c0 00 00 00 f0 00 00 00 50 89 00 40 bc 37 00 40 a4 38 00 40 00 50 89 00 40 bc 37 00 40 a4 38 00 40 bc 37 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 14 bc 37 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 14 b2 03 00 94 1e 00 40 10 00 00 00 28 38 b2 03 00 94 1e 00 40 10 00 00 00 28 38 00 40 a4 38 00 40 50 89 00 40 06 00 00 00 40 a4 38 00 40 50 89 00 40 06 00 00 00 c4 38 00 40 4c 89 00 40 d4 53 03 00 00 c4 38 00 40 4c 89 00 40 d4 53 03 00 b8 6d 03 00 ff 00 00 0
------------

It's when those buffer overflows occurs, the system will go very slow and not as in my video, where there are now overflows.
The trick is now how to get a grip on how this behavior  occurs

Title: Re: Software for RRC-Micro PC-Client
Post by: LA7THA on 2011-08-20, 18:16:30



Joe. I have now tested against IC-7000 with some success.
Not a complete success. Its possible to send commands to the radio from TRX-Manager
Everything seems to work nicely. However the data from the radio to TRX-Manager seems
to get lost somewhere. So we have a problem there.

I'm going for my summer vacation in an hour, but this will be my on my priority list when I come back in August.
Until it seems that you are stuck to HamRadio DeLuxe.


Hey

Are you back from summer vacation and have you done anything more bug search in software