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Hardware, Cabling, Installations / Re: Remote Rig and HRD
« on: 2019-02-07, 23:53:56 »
Thanks again Mitch and Mike

I changed the COM2 mode to mode 3 in both boxes and matched all the baud rates and it is now happy and working...still using the COM2 serial port with an external USB adaptor just because I happen to have it. I am only using this archaic FT1000 as a remote radio because my TS-480 is in the hospital for a week or more.

You may recall Mitch that I have the Ubiquiti WiFi installation on the high rise roof location. Works great but local noise is an issue sometimes. Having >100 local neighbours will do that.

73, Dave VE7VR

Hardware, Cabling, Installations / Re: Remote Rig and HRD
« on: 2019-02-07, 07:26:43 »
Hi Mitch

I have the remote side in the same room as the control side so I can see what is happening until I get HRD working. I have audio and can transmit so the RRC boxes are working.

I have an external USB-serial adaptor between a USB port on the computer and com2 of the control box with FTDI chip set.

Setting program mode to mode 3? Does that mean on the serial settings page that COM2 mode should be Mode 3, char-timeout rather than Mode 4?

Yes a real serial cable is in place on the radio RRC to radio port.


Hardware, Cabling, Installations / Remote Rig and HRD
« on: 2019-02-07, 05:28:31 »

I am sure the answer is in the forum somewhere but I can't seem to find it. I have a FT1000MP-MKV connected using the RRC boxes and all works well. It receives and transmits. The control RRC is connected to the computer with a USB-serial converter (com2). I have the latest version of HRD and want to use it to control the functions of the FT1000. There are only 2 com ports showing up and neither of them works. How do I get HRD to connect with the remote COM2 at the radio box?

Thanks Dave VE7VR

I am using a TS480 which works fine using the RRC keyer. I want to use contest logging software with function key memories. I keep looking at pages 94 and 95 of the manual but don't know what to do. Do I need to make a special cable from the Radio RRC I/O connector to a 3.5mm plug? I don't understand the connector drawing. Maybe I'm just tired. :)

I have a Microham external keyer which I can use if using a computer for keying doesn't work well.

Thanks, Dave VE7VR

Hello Mitch

Good news!

I ended up enlisting the help of a local WiFi company here in Vancouver (The WiFi Guys) to help with the final installation. They use Ubiquiti hardware all the time and made sure everything was configured right. We installed the roof top unit and the two linked very easily. He even turned down the power output since it ended up being overkill. What helped was making a PVC pipe arrangement which allowed the upper unit to look over the edge of the building creating a line of site link. Once that was done, a cable from the PoE injector LAN connector was put into an ethernet switch along with the RRC1258 and the RC1216H for the SteppIR control and everything is functional. Now I need to add the antenna but at least I know the link is solid.

Thanks for your help and suggestions.

I have a 3 month test period before getting final approval so hopefully it will go well. :)

73, Dave VE7VR

Thanks for the detail Mitch

I bought he Ubiquiti NanoStation M5 and am about to add it to the network. I did see that it is normally sold in pairs but snce the distance is ultimately only about 120 feet point to point, I thought two might be overkill since I already had the router. I can get another one if this doesn't work right.

If I did use two, is the 5GHz signal able to penetrate the building or is it line of sight? The building is all concrete and rebar.

Part of this is also to try and stay as hidden as possible. There is nothing at the building edge to attach anything significant. The plan it to have a SteppIR vertical up the middle of the roof. It will be seen from a block away but not by the people in the penthouse or below.

I will play with this and report progress shortly.


Thanks Mitch

From what I have read, you can really only use a WiFi extender at one that right? Trying to communicate extender to extender won't work? If that is the case then putting the extender at the primary router side...outside on my terrace and then extending the roof-top router antenna to the edge (50-75 feet) would be the right think to do? Maybe a directional antenna at the roof pointing at the extender?


Update: I replaced my old Linksys primary router with the same dual band version I am using at the radio end - Linksys WRT3200AC. The wireless bridge was then set up on the 5GHZ band. All the latency issues went away and the setup works just like it did when connected via the internet. Now the challenge is to get the two routers separated by more than 6 feet. I will try just using external antennas at each end but suspect I may have to have a PoE range extender at the primary router side. We shall see. The roof-top router will require about 50 feet of coax to get an external antenna to "see" over the edge of the building. The antennas will then be about 120 feet apart.

More to come.

Dave VE7VR

Thanks very much Mitch. I see in small print on the modem setup page that 2.4ghz is not recommended for wireless bridging. I will update my primary router to dual band and post an update here once that is installed. Thanks for the tip on hardware.

73, Dave VE7VR

I live in a high rise building.

Radio is a TS-480HX

I am attempting to use remote rig to connect from my apartment on the 14th floor with the roof on the 25th floor. The connection needs to be via wireless WiFi rather than the internet since I only have power available on the internet.

I currently have both ends in the apartment and will get that working before moving them apart.

I have the radio-end router (Linksys WRT3200) in wireless bridge mode and the RC1216 (SteppIR control) and RRC1258 are plugged into LAN jacks on the router. Good works. I can turn things on and change the SteppIR. I can hear audio and change frequency and transmit seems to work but with some delay. However, there is quite a delay when changing frequency. If I move the knob very slowly it is OK. When I rotate more quickly the frequency may not update for 1 or 2 seconds. While moving the frequency the audio is also interrupted.

There are also random voids in the audio on receive which are milliseconds long and occur every few seconds. Sometimes more frequent, sometimes longer intervals.

I don't think I can change any settings on the WiFi equipment or can I? Anything on the remote boxes I can try? Buffer/Jitter etc.

I tried disconnecting other WiFi equipment on the same network with minimal change.

My next option will be to change out my existing 2.4G router (Linksys WRT54GL)  and add a dual band router and move the wireless bridge (already dual band) to the 5G channel which will be exclusive of other connections.

Once this setup is solid I will need to work on external antennas for each router so they can "see" each other.

Thanks for any advice.

73, Dave VE7VR

I would like to use a cellular router on the radio end of my RemoteRig installation. I have so far been unsuccessful making this work. Mike at Microbit assures me that others have this working in certain parts of the world so some cellular ISPs work. If anyone has experience specific or close to my request I would like to hear it. Some have warned that certain LTE networks have what is know as "Double NAT" which stops the true IP address from showing up to the outside world. I may be able to contact Bell here in Canada (wireless provider)  if this can be resolved by them. I am using the dynamic DNS service at RemoteRig and it detects the IP address at the router or at least what it thinks is the IP address.

I have the two boxes working together and have made some CW contacts so generally the communication is OK. However, I am experiencing a hesitation of up to several seconds for the mouse scrolling to work when changing frequency and then it will be fine for a few seconds before stopping again....sometimes up to 10+ seconds before it reacts to the scrolling wheel again. There is also occasional delay with mouse clicks on various buttons. The radio is a FT1000MP MKV and works fine using HRD control when the laptop is connected directly to the radio. Internet ping averages about 30ms. Scrolling on a web page or whatever shows no hesitation. I have no experience with any other software. Maybe version 4 of HRD is better?

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