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Dennis, does the I/O of Radio-RRC need to be connected to TCVR, too? Or it is enough to just connect the I/O of Control-RRC to my footswitch? No trip to my remote QTH needed?

73 Marvin VE3VEE 

Mike, it may not be RRC, it may be my TS-480 itself, or some TS-480 setting I'm overlooking.

Dennis, I use foot-switch during my normal operation. However, TS-480, to send recorded voice messages, requires VOX to be on. Also Win-Test software requires VOX on my TCVR to be on, otherwise it will not send voice or CW messages either. So when VOX controls the switching between TX and RX, I don't experience the one second mute delay before RX comes on. When mic button or foot-switch controls ptt, then I do get the one (or one and a half) second delay.

Dennis, if you have a mic button, could you test if the ptt tail delay is longer when you use the mic ptt button versus your footswitch wired to your I/O input?

To wire my footswitch to my I/O, would I need to travel to my remote QTH to make a connection between I/O and the tcvr, or it only requires connection between the footswitch and Control-RRC?

73 Marvin VE3VEE

Hi Mike,

I've had RTP tx mode set to Continuous. The internet speed is likely not a cause of this issue. I use high speed internet via TV coax cable at home and a WISP at remote QTH.

The one second delay is actually NOT present when:

- sending CW messages from Win-Test contest logging software
- sending recorded voice messages from TS-480 by pressing the appropriate buttons on the TS-480 control head
- sending the voice messages by controlling TS-480 with keyboard shortcuts from within Win-Test logging software

(in the above 3 instances I do NOT use mic ptt button or foot-switch)

The one second delay is present only when:

- I use mic ptt button or foot-switch connected in parallel to the mic ptt button

73 Marvin VE3VEE

General discussion forum / Re: microKEYER II
« on: 2015-09-21, 12:05:43 »

I can give you a good tip: I use an LUA script for Win-Test for using my K3 voice module that was written by Bob, N6TV.
Bob has written a number of scripts which can be downloaded at:

That worked! Thanks Mitch! On Saturday, I went to my remote QTH to install the voice memory module into my TS-480. Immediately I tested the sending of messages from Win-Test using the scripts you suggested. It works! The scripts are indeed compatible with TS-480.

73 Marvin VE3VEE

Mitch, it's not that. Those setting have been disabled. What drives me nuts is simply the fact that when I let go of the microphone, or let go of the foot-switch, I hear nothing for about a second and a half. This delay is not there when instead of the mic-PTT or foot-PTT I use software to control PTT, for example when I use Win-Test software to send CW messages or I use Win-Test to send pre-recorded voice messages, the PTT-off delay is none. Can I somehow achieve the same with my foot-switch? Can I connect my foot-switch differently so it controls my TCVR the same way as the software does?

I see RemoteRig has its I/O outlets that the manual says could be used for PTT. Would this work differently than my current Mic-switch or foot-switch?

73 Marvin VE3VEE

Hello everyone,

I don't know if this is a RemoteRig or TS-480 issue, but I'm asking for help on this forum as there are users of both here.

When using my microphone's PTT switch (or my foot-switch connected in parallel with it) there's an unwanted PTT-off delay of about a second and a half till I start hearing my RX. Interestingly though, this delay is NOT present when I play pre-recorded messages from my TS-480's voice memory module. After the message finishes, the RX comes on instantly.

The unwanted PTT-off delay may be a big annoyance in contests. Is there any way I can help it?

73 Marvin VE3VEE

I just want to add a bit of info in case it may be of help to someone reading this. Win-Test software is able to send CW via CAT without the need for the RemoteRig's built-in WinKeyer. This, at the moment, seems to be the most convenient way of doing it for me. I'm now able to do everything I want without any cable between my laptop and my Control-RRC box. I'm a happy camper!  8)

73 Marvin VE3VEE

General discussion forum / Re: microKEYER II
« on: 2015-09-09, 22:35:53 »
my suggestion is to use WinTest locally to generate the voice signal from a sound card and send it over the Internet using the remote rig mic connection.

Dennis, I was thinking of doing it that way, but I wasn't clear on how WinTest would control my PTT when sending the recorded messages so I opted for a solution which I understood a bit better. But if I don't succeed in getting the Kenwood voice module working with WinTest, I'll be back experimenting...

CW is working now well, at least with N1MM. I haven't tested it with WinTest yet, but I think it should work just the same.

Thanks for the very valuable input from both of you! The last time I was into serious contesting was some 30 years ago when we used paper logs and much of this technology did not exist. I have a lot to learn now. It's fun to be back in the hobby after all these years. :)

73 Marvin VE3VEE

General discussion forum / Re: microKEYER II
« on: 2015-09-09, 20:25:33 »

Thanks very much for the link. I will give that a try and let you know the result. I just bought the voice module this morning and I plan on a trip to my remote QTH for the Saturday, Sept 19. I will then start experimenting with it. Wish me luck. :)

73 Marvin VE3VEE

General discussion forum / Re: microKEYER II
« on: 2015-09-09, 19:52:34 »

Thanks for the prompt reply. I opted to buy the Kenwood VGS-1 voice memory module for my TS-480 instead. I'm hoping there will be a way to figure out how to control it with the keyboard from the Win-Test software. If not, at least I know I will still be able to use it by pressing the Ch1, Ch2 a Ch3 buttons right on the TS-480.

73 Marvin VE3VEE

General discussion forum / Re: microKEYER II
« on: 2015-09-07, 18:47:54 »

Thanks for your reply.

I have a functional remote station and the next step is I'd like to set it up for contesting. I have no idea how to set up sending pre-recorded voice messages (e.g. CQ CONTEST...).

My TCVR is TS-480. I could buy the optional Kenwood VGS-1 Voice Module, but I don't think contest software (such as Win-Test) could control the sending of messages recorded by the Kenwood voice module (it would be nice if it could).

A friend of mine suggested microKEYER II, but could I use it with my Control-RRC? The cables for microKEYER II seem to include not just RS-232 connector, but also a connector intended to be plugged tho the DATA port on the back of the TS-480 and another one for the REMOTE port on the back of the TS-480  ( ). Where would I plug those? Would microKEYER II work even without those two connectors?

I'm basically searching for a suitable solution of how to send pre-recorded voice messages by Win-Test contest logging software.

73 Marvin VE3VEE

General discussion forum / microKEYER II
« on: 2015-09-07, 13:45:41 »
Do all the features of microKEYER II work via RemoteRig?

I'm considering to buy microKEYER II. I would use it with my TS-480 tcvr and I would use Win-Test as the software.   

I've searched this forum, but I didn't find much written about microKEYER II. I've found several unanswered questions about microKEYER and that makes me a bit hesitant to go ahead and place my order.

73 Marvin VE3VEE

Disregard my last question about PTT. I just needed to play with it a little bit longer to get the PTT to start working, and then I also needed to read my TS-480 manual to figure out how to add a little bit of a tail delay to the PTT. (It seems like the Winkey's own delay settings have no effect on anything.).

ALL is OK now and I'm now looking forward to testing this in some CW contest soon.

73 Marvin VE3VEE

Hmm, now how to set up PTT? Is there a way, via RemoteRig, that when software sends my CW it also controls my PTT?

Thanks guys for your help. I ordered a new Control-RRC (to replace my existing one with the broken mini-USB port. I picked it up from the post office less then two hours ago. I quickly configured it for my TS-480 and then I did as Mitch suggested: I set Control-RRC COM3 to mode 8 - Winkeyer, I used the USB cable, Windows created COMExtra which I used now in 3 different pieces of software to test CW keying. It works. I'm a happy camper  ;D

Thanks Mitch and Dennis.

73 Marvin VE3VEE

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