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Configuration, RRC 1258 / Re: Popping noise when CW send ends

« on: 2015-01-20, 11:25:50 »

Thanks, Mark - I will try that. For the FT 1000MP, have to be at the radio site with a small screwdriver to turn the sidetone down to zero. Will actually be down there today to temporarily install my K3 down there (@K4VV) to try remote with a K3 Mini at my home end. When go back to the FT1000, will turn sidetone down.

73 John K3TN

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Configuration, RRC 1258 / Popping noise when CW send ends

« on: 2015-01-12, 00:16:34 »

Using RemoteRigs to remote control a FT1000 - when I send CW and my headphone audio switches from the CW sidetone to the receiver audio, there is a loud popping/clicking/chirping sound, at least 90% of the time.  It is many dB louder than the rx audio, so very fatiguing to listen to.

Seems to happen more with software (such as N1MM function key) sending, not so much with sending CW with the paddle that is connected to the Control RRC.

On the Control RRC, I see under Advanced Settings PTT-off mute delay. But changing that from the default setting of 0 all the way up to 900 does not make much, if any, difference.

Is there some other parameter to set?

Thanks, John K3TN

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Configuration, RRC 1258 / Re: Remote Rig Winkeyer and N1MMPlus

« on: 2015-01-10, 15:20:48 »

I've duplicated Mike's problem with my Remote Rig setup - with N1MM+, the function keys won't send CW.

With old N1MM (called Classic), it works fine. N2IC on the N1MM team seems to say that N1MM+ is looking for status byte return, that doesn't seem to happen in RemoteRig WinKey emulation, maybe?

So, for Microbit testing - use N1MM+ to see problem.

John K3TN

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Configuration, RRC 1258 / Re: Unable to talk to RRC using Microbit utility

« on: 2014-11-19, 12:02:46 »

I have a similar problem - on a Windows 7 laptop, the Microbit setup manager can no longer see the RRC. I can manage the RRC over the web interface, and on a separate Windows 7 PC (where I did *not* install the Microbit virtual ports, just the Setup Manager, the setup utility *can* see the RRC and communicate.

On the laptop, I uninstalled/reinstalled the setup Utility, still can not see or communicate with the RRC.

John K3TN

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Configuration, RRC 1258 / PC Remote Control Application: Can RemoteRig be used to talk on Radio LAN?

« on: 2014-09-03, 15:11:10 »

Remotely controlling an FT1000MP, using N1MM contest logging software. The FT1000 is one of three at the station (K4VV) and N1MM software is used for multi-op efforts to both network the computers together and to support rotator control without having each PC have a hard wired connection to every rotor.

That is done using N1MM feature that allows each PC to talk to each other over the shack LAN - each copy of N1MM has a .ini file with the local IP addresses to make this work.

Example: N1MM on control end wants to send packets to PC on radio LAN  to turn rotor. If I just put the radio LAN IP addresses in the N1MM .ini file now, the control side PC running N1MM will just send on the control side LAN, not the radio side LAN.

So, the question: if there a configuration of RemoteRig that enable software on the control side (N1MM) talk on the radio-side LAN? I know that works with Com ports, but can it handle this scenario? Or, anyone doing this with N1MM configuration?

Thanks, John K3TN

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Configuration, RRC 1258 / Another try at Virtual Ports - K3 Twin Remote Setup Trying to Get Winkeyer CW Go

« on: 2014-07-26, 00:19:14 »

On a clean Windows 7 laptop I installed the Microbit Setup Manager and had it install virtual ports. I also installed the N1MM logging program.

I am running my K3 in terminal mode to connect to a remote K3. I have that working, with one slight audio issue I'll chase later.

I added computer control via N1MM - a USB serial adapter shows up as COM 6 on the Win 7 laptop, I connect that to COM1 on Control RRC front panel. That works fine.

Now, I want to add CW keying. I tried following W1UEs instructions for using DTR keying, did not work.

Decided to try the Winkey approach, following DJ0QN's instructions, connecting a USB cable to the Control RRC USB connection - N1MM says Winkey not detected.

One problem may be the virtual ports. In device manager I see:

Intel Active Management Technology - SOL (COM3)
RRC1258 COM2 (COM5) - this appears when I plug in the USB to USB cable
USB Serial Port (COM6)


So, I'm telling N1MM to use COM5 for CW - but that doesn't work. However, DJ0QN's instructions seem to want me to use a virtual port COM 3, but I'm seeing that Intel COM 3, no virtual one.

In the Other Devices within Device Manager I see 3 1258 Remote Rig entries with a question mark on them, clicking on any of them brings up Device Status of "Driver not Installed"

What am I missing??

Thanks, John K3TN

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Configuration, RRC 1258 / How to setup for N1MM and Winkey operation?

« on: 2014-07-01, 21:07:25 »

Configuration is PC remote control of an FT1000. I can currently send CW from a paddle at the Control end and the Paddle connector at the Radio RRC connected to the FT1000 key jack.

I can start up N1MM on my PC at the Control RRC side and see the frequency of the remote FT1000, change the freq, etc - CAT is working.

But, how to I use N1MM to key the remote radio, ie use the N1MM Function Keys to send?  - does not currently work. I've tried various combinations of COM Ports in N1MM, no luck. The manual seems to hint at needed to do this via the USB connection on the Control RRC?

Thanks, John K3TN

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Configuration, RRC 1258 / Re: Question on Serial Settings

« on: 2014-06-30, 12:26:55 »

Thanks, Enrico - unfortunately, the situation is this: the remote station (K4VV) is in a rural/country area where the only Internet service is via wireless Internet service providers. One of the towers at K4Vv actually hosts the ISPs antennas and the shack gets free Internet service - but that service is shared with several houses in the same area. So, I bet there are web cams, and Netflix downloads, and You Tube viewing etc going on - but we can't control that!

I pretty much increased the jitter buffer/delay settings to the maximum and got the audio drop outs to decrease significantly - but not away completely. OK for casual QSO, but not good enough for CW in a contest. I ran some speed tests and the performance is dramatically different every time I run it - some times low jitter/low ping time, some times twice as high, sometimes even higher.

We are going to try to work with the ISP to see if there is some way to improve the performance of the shack connection, I can see anything else to do at the Remote Rig side.

73 John K3TN

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Configuration, RRC 1258 / Re: Question on Serial Settings

« on: 2014-06-27, 13:39:52 »

The ISP to this site is a wireless ISP - there is no wired Internet to the site. Problems getting Mumble or Skype to work reliably over that connection was one of the drivers for trying out Remote Rig, but I understand the lost packet issue.

I changed the audio packet size to 40ms and that made dramatic improvements. I increased the jitter parameters and got more improvement, but if I went back to 20 ms packet size, not so good. I'm going to try increasing the jitter settings more.

So, a question or two about that:

1. Do the settings for those three parameters have to be the same on the Control and Radio RRCS? You seem to say can increase only at the Radio side, which makes sense.

2. My reading of the manual makes me believe Jitter buffer size is more important setting at the Radio RRC side and Jitter buffer delay is more important at the Control side, as far as receiving audio at the Control side. Am I correct? And the reverse would be true if there are drop out problems with mic audio from the Control side to the Radio side.

I will try to run a speed test that includes the packet loss statistics - I am afraid you may be right about that being the problem.

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Configuration, RRC 1258 / Audio problems, was Re: Question on Serial Settings

« on: 2014-06-26, 22:33:18 »

OK, followed those settings. Control RRC connects to Radio RRC and I hear RX audio and get a solid yellow LED on the Control RRC AUX/MIC jack.

However, the audio drops out many times per second - essentially more drop outs than audio. This is with Mode 1 for Audio Quality.

If I change to mode 0, no real improvement. If I change to mode 7, slightly worse.

An Internet speed test from the radio site shows 4.5Mbs download speed, 1.5 Mbs upload, ping time 53 ms, jitter 43 ms. Not sure about the jitter number, but bandwidth seems enough, no?

Status readings below.

What could be causing audio problems?


Control RRC Status:
Name   Value
Control panel   OFF
Radio   OFF
Connection status   OK
SIP status   Connected/transfering
Last SIP error   None
RTP status   Excellent(60)
UDP cmd status   OK(24)
SIP command timeout   0
Rx Jitter buffer size   4
Rx Jitter delay   3
Dual Rx   0
Current audio packet size   20
Current audio quality   1 - Linear 12 bits 8 kHz
SIP Out port   13000
SIP In port   13000
Audio Out port   13001
Audio In port   13001
Command Out port   13002
Command In port   13002
External SIP In port   13000
External Audio In port   13001
External Cmd In port   13002
Other party   208.72.79.36
Input 0   High
Input 1   High
Input 2   High
Output 0   High
Output 1   Low
Output 2   Low
DNS status   OK, remoterig.com = 193.202.110.185
Active profile:   K4VV FT1000
PTT status:   OFF


Radio RRC Status:
Name   Value
Radio   OFF
Connection status   OK
SIP status   Connected/transfering
Last SIP error   None
RTP status   Excellent(60)
UDP cmd status   OK(17)
SIP command timeout   0
Rx Jitter buffer size   4
Rx Jitter delay   3
Dual Rx   0
Current audio packet size   20
Current audio quality   1 - Linear 12 bits 8 kHz
SIP Out port   13000
SIP In port   13000
Audio Out port   13001
Audio In port   13001
Command Out port   13002
Command In port   13002
External SIP In port   13000
External Audio In port   13001
External Cmd In port   13002
Other party   173.73.28.110
Input 1   High
Input 2   High
Output 0   Low
Output 1   Low
Output 2   Low
Dynamic DNS status   Unknown
Ping status (watchdog)   Off
DNS status   OK, remoterig.com = 193.202.110.185
Active profile:   K4VV FT1000
PTT status:   OFF
Antenna-Switch (IP)   not connected

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Configuration, RRC 1258 / Re: Question on Serial Settings

« on: 2014-06-23, 12:07:23 »

Thanks, Mike - Will try those settings. One question:

If I get the settings correct and the Control RRC has a data path to the Radio RRC, will the RRC status show RADIO: ON even if I don't have N1MM or other software yet running on the Control PC? Or do I need software to start trying to communicate that will then cause the status to show RADIO;ON?

Actually, another question: Telnet - if I don't  intend to use terminal mode, do I need to have port 23 forwarded? The RRC manual did not say to do so, so I currently do not have it opened up.

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Configuration, RRC 1258 / Question on Serial Settings

« on: 2014-06-20, 19:21:10 »

I've gotten a pair of RRCs working on the local LAN,  the goal is a PC-based Remote Control application. FT-1000 at the radio side, connected per the Yaeus section. On the Control side, a PC with no serial port, so USB to the Control RRC. The PC at the control end will run N1MM and/or Ham Radio Deluxe and need to control the and CW key the remote FT-1000.

To make that work, I will need to control PC to talk to the Radio CAT and to think there is Winkeyer at the radio end.

Tested all audio/CW/PTT functions on the local LAN, works fine with microphone and paddle connected to the Control RRC. Had the wrong (male to female) DB9 serial cable, so couldn't test the Radio RRC connection to the FT-1000 yet.

I'm confused about the serial settings beyond the 4800 8N2 for the Yaesu CAT. I am assuming COM 1 Mode 6 is correct, with Use USB Com Port for COM1? If so, would I then configure N1MM to use Com 1 for CAT of the remote radio?

Similar question for COM 2 serial setup: I assume I use Mode 6, and tell N1MM that Winkey is on COM2? And also set Use USB Com Port for COM@?

Any other settings needed I haven't listed?

Final question: the manual and setting mention Telnet and port 23 quite a bit, but the firewall/port forwarding section never mention putting in a rule for Telnet/port 23 - is such a rule required?

Thanks, John K3TN

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Configuration, RRC 1258 / Re: Virtual Com Ports - What should I see in Device Manager?

« on: 2014-06-19, 12:00:04 »

Thanks, Jan - I have remote VNC access to that PC and will try that.

Is it possible for the Microham (Eltima) Virtual Ports and the Microbit virtual ports to co-exist if there is no overlap? If all the Eltima virtual ports were 4 or higher and Microbit using 0-3?

I will run into this same issue eventually on the Control PC, where a Microham MK2R+ is used for home station operating and Remote Rig would be used for controlling the Remote station.

73 John K3TN

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Configuration, RRC 1258 / Re: Virtual Com Ports - What should I see in Device Manager?

« on: 2014-06-19, 02:37:03 »

Thanks, Jan - the file is attached.

73 John K3TN

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Configuration, RRC 1258 / Virtual Com Ports - What should I see in Device Manager?

« on: 2014-06-18, 12:09:06 »

Getting RRCs going on local LAN, with latest firmware installed. Will be used for a remote Windows XP PC operation of a FT-1000 with N1MM and maybe DXLab Commander at the Control end eventually.

I've gotten the basic functionally working locally - TX/RX audio, PTT, CW keying etc. Now want to get the computer connection running.

When I installed the Microbit Setup Manager and then connected each RRC, a number of virtual com port drivers seemed to be installed with each one, I had to click through Windows warnings of non-compliant drivers, etc). Reading W1UE's thread, I see I should see COM 0-3 in Device Manager but I don't.

I see a COM1, no COM0 and nothing that seems to say RRC or Microbit.

This PC has a MicroHam Microkeyer attached, so has a lot of Eltima virtual ports, mostly higher numbered (above 12) but does show Eltima 2, 3 which might be a conflict? Do I need to not run the Microham Router software to make this work?

What actually should I see in Device Manager if the Microbit virtual ports are installed and operating correctly?

73 John K3TN