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I have the setup running as described by Mike: SignaLink to the Mic jack in the IC-7100 frontpanel using a standard Ethernet cable. My SignaLink is strapped accordingly by comparing the pin output of the Mic jack and the SignaLink, see www.tigertronics.com/sl_wirebm.htm#ICOM That way I can make digital QSO's by RemoteRig.

It works though it is not too smart to have the radio RRC digitizing the audio, the control RRC then makes the audio analog so the SignaLink can digitize the audio once more and feed it to the pc. The control RRC should be able to feed the digitized audio to the pc via the USB-cable.

73, Palle, OZ1RH

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General / Re: Beta versions available
« on: 2016-06-08, 18:41:03 »
Nano Elecraft 1.5.0 does not work well for me. I have a RRC setup with K3/0-Mini to the K3 with original RemoteRig cables working with no problems. All RRC's have software version 2.90.

When I start Nano Elecraft 1.5.0  and connect I get the sound from the K3 within a few seconds. However none of the controls in the Nano app on the VFO page works and neither RX S-meter nor VFO frequencies are displayed. Sometimes after 4-5 minutes the controls starts to work. However after turning the VFO the VFO frequency is displayed as a difference like 2.90 or -0000.000.001 It is now possible to press and hold where the frequency should be displayed and then the box for entering a frequency is displayed. After entering a frequency it is displayed correct and turning the VFO in the app changes the A-frequency as expected. Pressing A/B and then press and hold where the frequency should be displayed let me enter a frequency in the B-VFO, which then is displayed in line B. Now the app is more or less usable, however RX S-meter still only shows -- and BW is grayed out and does not work. Mode button works but the selected Mode is not displayed. Band button works, but the indicated frequency is not changed in the app.

My phone is a HTC One M8 with Android 6.0. It have also installed Nano Icom 1.5.0, which works better when connecting to another site with an IC-7100. Perhaps the two apps interfere? I have had situations where after using the Icom and the Elecraft application one after another a few times none of them works and the only remedy is to shut the phone down (Power off/Restarting).

My problems seems similar to what is mentioned in www.remoterig.com/forum/index.php?topic=4683.0 however I do not get the message APP TRIAL PERIOD HAS EXPIRED and the licence indicator on 'the connect screen' is green Lic.ID b972 as it should be.

73, Palle, OZ1RH.
palle@oz1rh.com

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Speed is not so important, as mentioned a few 100 kbit/sec up and download is enough, low ping time and low jitter are more important when you stream audio. Check with www.pingtest.net As you are on ADSL ping time and jitter is likely to be OK at your remote site.

Many people try 3G mobile broadband at their remote site, which has ample speed, but sometimes with dropouts in the audio due to long ping time and high jitter. As mentioned in the manual mobile broadband with 4G/LTE works FB. Your router needs to get at public IP address at the WAN side from your ISP. If the router at the remote site only gets at private IP adr (like 192.168.x.x, 10.x.x.x or 172.x.x.x) it is not possible to connect to it from the internet and you obviously need to connect to your remote site. It does not matter whether the router gets a static (=fixed) or a dynamic IP address. In my country one generally gets a public IP address on ADSL, but on mobile broadband private IP adr are common.

73, Palle, OZ1RH.

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I make digital QSO's with IC-7100, RemoteRig and SignalLink. I have my SignalLink USB connected with a CAT5 cable to the RJ-45 mike connector on the control panel, that is at the control site. I strapped the SignalLink for IC-7100 RJ-45 connector as described on the Tigertronics website www.tigertronics.com/sl_wirebm.htm#ICOM and I configured the IC-7100 for audio output on the mike connector. No big deal. The IC-706 can most likely be used for digital QSO's in the same way.

Pity a SignalLink is required. The control RemoteRig box should include a USB audio sound card. Much better would be if the USB-port on modern radios could be remoted from the radio to the control RemoteRig box, but I have understood it is not that easy to copy or remote an USB-port over the internet.

73, Palle, OZ1RH.

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If I understand it correct IPv4: 10.171.132.xx is the the WAN address of your 4G/LTE-router as shown on the status page of the router. Your 4G/LTE router must be given a public IP-adr open for incoming traffic as its WAN address. Private IP addresses like 10.x.x.x does not work.

This has been a problem several times in this forum, and I suggest it is mentioned in the RR-manual:

If you plan to use mobile broadband make sure your ISP will provide your router at the remote site with a public IP address, either dynamic or static. This might not be the IP address you get on the Internet, that is the one you can check at www.myip.dk as many ISP's especially on mobile broadband NAT's many customers private IP WAN addresses to a single public IP address on the Internet.

Your router at the radio site have to get a public addressable (and routeable) WAN IP address from your ISP and it must be open for incoming traffic. Private IP addresses on the WAN side like 10.x.x.x, 192.168.x.x or 172.x.x.x can not be accessed from the Internet, thus you can't connect to it and manage your radio. Contact your ISP and request a public IP address open for incoming traffic.

This has nothing to do with static=fixed IP addresses or dynamical IP addresses. There is no need to pay for a static=fixed IP address. If you get a public dynamic IP address you use DDNS to find the actual public IP address of the radio site.

Notice that ISP customer service often does not know the difference between public and private IP addresses, they keep talking about dynamic and static IP address which is not our issue.

The speed of a 3G connection is more than enough for RemoteRig, but ping time/latency/jitter might not be adequate. In this respect 4G/LTE is much better, so get a 4G if possible. If only 3G is available some tweaking of the advanced parameters in RemoteRig is likely to be needed.

73, Palle, OZ1RH

PS, In theory your ISP can give you a private IP adr and do a 1:1 NAT to a public IP adr so whenever the public IP adr is addressed from the internet all traffic goes (=is NAT'ted) to the private IP address, but I do not think any ISP will use their firewalls in that way for millions of customers.

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Allmänt diskussionsforum / Re: Telia begränsar DNS
« on: 2014-06-23, 15:37:11 »
Hej Mogens,

Telia, TDC, Telmore og Oister i Danmark tildeler mobilbredbåndsbrugernes router en privat IP adresse, som ikke kan tilgås fra internettet. Dermed kan de udbydere ikke bruges i radioenden. Det har været omtalt flere gange her i forummet at routeren til radio-remoterig skal have en offentlig IP adr åben for adgang fra internettet. Check routerens IP adr på WAN-siden ved at logge ind på routeren og læs dens statusside. '3' tildeler en offentlig IP adr åben for indgående trafik hvis man vælger det rigtige APN.

Der er ikke problemer med at bruge de nævnte udbydere i kontrolenden, dvs. ved din pc eller kontrolpanelet til IC7100, FT857 og lign. Jeg bruger B593 med Telmore 4G til IC7100 kontrolpanelet og det virker fint der hvor der er 4G dækning.

Til mobilbånd er LTE/4G i øvrigt en stor fordel, da LTE/4G har lavere pingtider og jitter, check f.eks. via www.pingtest.net Hastigheden er derimod ikke afgørenden.

73, Palle, OZ1RH.

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I suggest that the small read wires in the configuration pad and JMP1-n should be a software configuration. That would make configuration much easier: no need to open the box and no broken wires or bad mechanical connection.

73, Palle, OZ1RH.

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General discussion forum / Re: K3/0-mini
« on: 2014-05-29, 02:47:55 »
Hi Geoff,

As Mitch wrote, you do not need an extra phone with a new SIM-card. Put your present 3/4G USB PC dongle in a 3/4G Wifi router like the TP-Link MR-3420 ver 2.0 and you have a personal Wifi hotspot to which your pc and RRC-1258 can connect. See www.tp-link.com/lk/products/details/?model=TL-MR3420 You need version 2 to do 4G. It works for me. Price around 30 GBP or 40 USD.

Another possibility is to share the pc's internet from the USB dongle with the pc's ethernet port where the RRC-1258 is conneted. That worked for me during Dayton, where my pc got internet via Wifi which then was shared with the RRC-1258 via ethernet. The network setup was a little tricky, if I remember correctly the ethernetport in the pc (to which the RRC-1258 was connected) had to have its default gateway in the pc set to the IP address of the wireless card in the pc. Windoze should have done it, but I had to do it manually after a 'route print' and some thinking (=it did not work in first try!). I think the RRC-1258 had to have its default gateway set to the IP address of the ethernet port in the pc.

73, Palle, OZ1RH.

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Though I have not tried yet I have understood you have to feed the audio from the IC-7100 control head to your pc for instance trough a SignalLink.

This is not smart, it would be much better if the digital audio inside the control RRC-1258 could be feed to the pc trough the USB cable, that is the RRC-1258 should appear as an USB audio device to the pc just like the RRC-Micro.

73, Palle, OZ1RH.

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In Denmark the mobile broadband ISP's TDC, Telmore, Telia and Oister will give your router a dynamic but private IP address, thus not good for access from the internet. From ISP '3' www.3.dk you can get a public dynamic IP address if you choose the right APN and you can buy a public static IP address from '3'. However '3' has a special feature that customers from Oister and '3' can NOT access other '3' customers unless BOTH has paid for a public static IP address =:((

If you plan to use mobile broadband make sure your ISP will provide your remote site with a public IP address, either dynamic or static. Notice that their customer service often does not know the difference between public and private IP addresses, they keep talking about dynamic and static IP address which is not our issue.

73, Palle, OZ1RH.

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Configuration, RRC 1258 / Re: Configuration Optimisation
« on: 2014-01-14, 23:07:31 »
Tnx Lars,

When everything works it is a good idea to use www.host-tracker.com to monitor connection to the remote site. At work I used Xymon http://xymon.sourceforge.net/ for more detailed monitoring of servers and websites.

I use my Android phone with Overlook Whiz from Google Play/Android Market for monitoring access to the webpage of my radio RR. See https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.overlook.android.whiz&hl=en

73, Palle, OZ1RH.

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Configuration, RRC 1258 / Re: Configuration Optimisation
« on: 2014-01-09, 00:33:59 »
In the context of computer networks, jitter is the variation in latency as measured in the variability over time of the packet latency across a network, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitter

Tools to check your connection:
http://www.pingplotter.com/
http://www.pingtest.net/
http://www.ringcentral.com/support/qos.html
http://www.internetfrog.com/myinternet/voip/
http://www.speedtest.net
There are many more, Google is your friend. Search for "VOIP Quality" or just "jitter".

I mostly use pingplotter and www.pingtest.net Pingtime/latency and jitter are more important than speed, a few hundred kbit/sec should do. The RemoteRig manual describes how much (or how little) speed is needed. I have no algorithm to work out the optimum settings other than reading the manual and this forum.

73, Palle, OZ1RH.

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If you already have a USB 4G dongle you can put it into a cheap 50 $ router like TP-Link MR-3420 ver. 2. Note, only ver. 2 supports 4G. It works for me but I prefer a real 4G router.

Verizon must give you a public IP address open for incoming traffic. If you get a private IP adr like 10.9.x.x or 192.168.x.x as WAN IP adr it can't be accessed from the internet, thus you can't connect to it and manage your radio.

The speed of a 3G connection is more than enough for RemoteRig, but ping time/latency/jitter might not be adequate. In this respect 4G/LTE is much better, so get a 4G. If only 3G is available some tweaking of the advanced parameters in RemoteRig is likely to be needed as described in other places on this forum.

HNY, Palle, OZ1RH

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I have noticed that my radio RRC can't be pinged even though the RRC is working and its webinterface can be accessed as it should. This makes fault finding in the network layer difficult as I use ping to check for hardware and network problems.

My documentation is in the enclosed screen dump. Both RRC and my pc are on the same network 192.168.0.1 mask 255.255.255.0 My control RRC .227 can be pinged as it should, but radio RRC .228 can't even though its webinterface is available. I have checked that the webinterface screen is not coming from a cache and it updates nicely from a box that can't be pinged. Both RRC's are cabled to my wifi router and the RRC's have no wifi card inside. The radio RRC has a ping watch dog running OK against the ADSL router and it can ping out, but not even from the ADSL router can I ping the radio RRC.

I think this is an error which has showed up in one of the later fireware releases as I seem to recall ping worked many months ago.

73, Palle, OZ1RH.

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Sri, jeg så ikke at det vedrørte webswitchen. Jeg læser alle unread msg på forum og der stod ikke noget om webswitch i subject.

73, Palle, OZ1RH.

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