Remote Rig
RRC 1258 Support in English => Configuration, RRC 1258 => Topic started by: kf5scn on 2014-11-19, 18:17:51
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I'm working on trying to get this system setup and having an issue.
I have both RRC units configured, accessible. I've tried to go between both units and with the manual, to get things correct.
Everything seems to be set up correctly, but when I try to power on the control head, I get nothing. Cables are OK. Used then to connect directly back to the radio no problem.
When I try to "connect" on the status page of the web, I get a three tone sound, three times and the yellow LED on the Aux/mic outlet starts flashing.
They're configured for the "old" jumper settings(conf-2 in the manual) because the serial number is lower than what it shows in the manual, but I'm wondering if for some reason it needs to be the other configuration.
At this point, I'm stumped. Any suggestions on what to try would be greatly appreciated
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There should not be a "connect" button on the status page if you have selected the correct program mode. it should be 5 for TS-480
I saw the files now, you have wrong program mode, you have 4 it should be 5
You should use the Radio-RRC IP-adress for SIP-contact if you are within the same LAN
73 de mike
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Doh...when I got to 4 and it said Kenwood, I stopped...
Changed those two things...both units...and the only difference is I get the tones now when I try to power on the control head. Which is at least a step in the right direction. I didn't get anything before.
I saw something on another thread about the #2 jumper position for the voltage to the head. The way I read the manual is it should be open.
It's an HX. Is it possible that even though the serial number is prior to what it says in the manual, might it need the other strapping configuration? Will it hurt anything if I try?
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No it's not a jumper problem change the SIP contact to the IP adress of the Radio-RRC
/mike
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Doh!!!, number two.
I thought had, but made a type with a comma instead of a period....
Thanks immensely,
Ray
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Related question...
I'm about to do some testing NOT on the LAN. So I take it I should then change the SIP to the Dynamic DNS settings?
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Yes if you have the RRCs at different LAN you probably need ddns. Do not forget to do the port forwarding at the radio side router
/mike
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I'm working on that right now...
I'm about to look into getting the dsl line changed to a static ip.
If that happens, am I correct in thinking that I would then use that IP, and if the ports are properly opened up, that it would work?
Can't remember where I saw/heard that. But the reason was that in the event you needed to access the dsl modem/router remotely, you could.
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Yes, but you will not get any benfit from changing to fixed IP. Probably 99% of the Remoterig user has dynamic IP and it's no problem. It's no difference when connecting to the router either, the same dns hostname works for all equipment behind the router and the router
/mike
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Ray,
It may be a bit too late for you, but I send anyone who asks a copy of my current networking checklist,
which walks you through the process of setting-up your RemoteRig system. If you or anyone needs this
to get started, drop me a short mail at dj0qn (at) darc.de and I will send it to you right away.
73,
Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX
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OK...can now get the control to come on, and figured out how to change things between inside and outside the LAN. It pushes a "tune" signal to the A/T. It "hears" fairly well, but this morning when I tried to check int to a net...nothing.
So I got a handheld and listened/tested via the remote and then directly to the radio. Voice output when directly connected, no voice output when on the remote.
On the remote, the PTT is apparently working because it will relay in the radio and kick in the tuner, and when I change it to CW mode and key the mike, it's indicating the carrier on the tuner LEDs.
So I'm guessing I don't have something set right...but darned if I can figure out what.
Have asked Mitch to send the info he alluded to in his post to see if there's anything that might help.
I'm attaching the most current config set up files, so once again, any suggestion would be very helpful.
Thank
Ray
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The settings looks ok, an it also reports that the internet connections are OK. I guess the trouble is hardware connection of the mic signal. Either the cables or the red straps. The red straps can be broken inside the insulation, so you need a ohm-meter to check.
73 de mike
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The cables are OK. I can switch them around from one unit to the other, both as a remote setup and direct control to radio.
I checked continuity on the jumper wires and double checked how it was set up. All is correct.
But i did fine something that is odd. On the radio unit, with jumpers removed at the noted locations, it's shorted between the two locations noted on the attachment.
They're not on the control unit. Should that be a short at that location?
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Yes there should be a short in the control unit, not in the radio unit where the mic gnd is connected to the trafo, see manual
/mnike
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Ok. Switched mic & antenna. Finally able to make a contact, but report was that is the audio was not very strong, and "oscillating".
Right now it's connected via the LAN, and not much other usage on it, so bandwidth &/or latency shouldn't be an issue.
I'll have another ts480 in hand in a tomorrow afternoon that's been mobile in an RV for about 3 months. Will be testing with that when it gets here to try to determine what's causing the issues I'm still having.
I'm not clear on what some of the setting do, so don't know which one might be changed to improve things.
Will repost here if/when I get things figured out as reference for others in the future.
Thanks to all for the help.
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Hi
There should not be need for any changes of the settings, if the audio is not OK I still think you have a hardware/wire problem. A missing GND wire for example
/mike
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I'm starting to think so, too. It's not my station, so I'm reluctant to get too experimental till he gets back.
Sometime tomorrow PM, will have another TS480, a couple of other transceivers, a guy that's LOT more knowledgeable about the radio side than me (I'm more a network geek), and I'm sure we'll be doing a LOT of experimentation.
Thanks, again, for the feedback
Ray
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Also make sure that JMP1 is not on! Setting bias on could cause that kind of distortion.
73,
Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX
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Just checked, for the 3rd or 4th time...its open.
I'm housesitting for this guy. He got this stuff a while back, and I'm just trying to get it set up for him. Couldn't find the "stock" mic. So I've been using a couple of things that "sort of worked" when I was messing around playing with a manual tuner I got a while back and a home brew Zepp I was playing with.
At this point, a lot unknown variables in play. Need to wait for tomorrow and a known good configuration (The owner's mobile setup is a TS480 in an RV. Home station is just south of Albuquerque...could hear him working Japan Friday morning mobile in Phoenix on 40M...and could hear the Japan station light.) So that's obviously a known good configuration. And RX seems to be just fine if the Halogen and fluorescent lights around the house aren't on.
Everything seems to be working except audio output. Just need to figure out what the issue is with that. I'm guessing we set up his mobile configuration here in the yard, and introduce the remote stuff, we'll be in the clear.
Been damn frustrating though. But not as much so as it was when I was working on getting HF to work on my sailboat. Holy Cow...that's what caused me to pursue my Ham ticket(s).
I have an M-802 and a Pactor I use for digital (email) and (now) an IC-7000 I use for phone. Each on separate antenna, tuner, power feed, and ground/counterpoise. Tried to separate them as much as I could. And a spare Alpha-Delta DX-EE in the bilge, and lots of random wire, and a couple of extra 9:1 UNUN's for random wire endfed, and other such stuff rat-holed around the boat. God forbid I'll ever need it, but at least to this point, it's working if I ever need help. Noting like redundancy in an emergency.
Fair number of contacts to Europe on 20M and all over the US on 40M from Central America. Usually at about 80W-85W, and decent reports when I'm not trying to compete with legal limit contest stations.
I'm by no means an experienced HAM, but it's still been darn frustrating not getting this to work when everything appears to be set up correctly.
Likely as not, it will turn out to be something as stupid simple as common mode RFI or a grounding thing. Still struggling with good comprehension on that stuff.
Again, as always, thanks for any feedback.
Raybo
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OK...owner is back. We're messing around with it this morning and we're still having audio issues.
In tune (CW)mode, all is good, but with the mic, it's still no audio out to speak of.
And it's putting out what Gil calls "hash", not a clean signal.
This is now with two different heads, and two different mics.
Any suggestions
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Forgot to mention, it works fine connected to the radio. Just a problem with with the remote.
And moved the RemoteRig as far away from the radio as reasonable and no change.
And it's the same at 5W as it is in 200W.
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Ray,
I will make a bet with you that this problem is what both Mike and I already thought it is:
it must be with the red strappings in one of the RRC's or another hardware issue.
I know you have checked the strappings before, but please check them again. It is very easy
to install these strappings and not have them make contact, even I have done it poorly before.
I now hold the wire at the beginning of the red insulation with needle-node pliers and push
gently into the socket until i feel it make contact.
The only other two possibilities:
- You could have the strappings installed 180 degrees around. Pin 1 is on the top right with
the back of the RRC to your right while looking at the socket. I have seen people do this wrong.
- It could also be with a bad cable connecting the radio RRC to the TS-480.
The mic audio is done in hardware, not using RRC settings. Please take our advice and recheck
the hardward as above.
73,
Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX
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Yes I agree with Mitch, the red straps is the only thing which can give this type of problem
73 de mike
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I've checked them repeatedly, and I use a small bent nose jeweler's pliers. I did find one that wasn't seated, but that several iterations ago of opening up and checking...
As for the orientation, that's possible. Using the diagram shown on page 183 in the manual (configuration 2 for the ts480), holding the front of the unit toward my body, that the jumpers should be arranged just as shown on that diagram. That puts #1 in the same position as the way it shows in the manual on page 22 in the manual. Looking at the mic/aux connection socket (front), it's away and to the right. I've attached a picture indicating what i interpret as pin 1
The one thing i haven't tried is using configuration one because of where the manual says the difference is in terms of serial numbers. Might it be possible I should be using the other jumper configuration, and if I try it, will I hurt anything?
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you will not hurt anything if you shift the GND wires
/micke