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RRC 1258 Support in English => General discussion forum => Topic started by: i1fqh on 2014-02-02, 15:25:07

Title: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: i1fqh on 2014-02-02, 15:25:07
GooD morning OM

Before to go crazy I am writing to solve my "Remoterig" problem
2 Elecraft K3 connected to the network via a home router
These are the radio setting
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RADIO

Radio settings

Program mode   Elecraft twin
Sip password   no passw.
Sip contact   192.168.0.227
Auto connect   no
Audio quality   
Codec out gain   
Codec inp gain   
Codec inp HPF Hz   
Codec inp preamp   38400
COM0 baudrate   8
COM0 data bits   1
COM0 stop bits   0
COM0 parity           2
COM0 Program mode 3 char timeout   2
Use USB Com Port as COM0 no

Status
Name   Value
Control panel   ON
Radio   ON
Connection status   Disconnected
SIP status   Unknown(1)
Last SIP error   None
RTP/UDP audio status   Disconnected
UDP cmd status   Disconnected
SIP command timeout   0   
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CONTROL SETTING

Program mode   K3 TWIN
Sip password   NOPASSWORD
Sip contact 192.168.0.228   
Auto connect   NO
Audio quality   
Codec out gain   
Codec inp gain   
Codec inp HPF Hz   
Codec inp preamp   
COM0 baudrate   38400
COM0 data bits   8
COM0 stop bits   0
COM0 parity           1
COM0 Program mode 3 char timeout   2
Use USB Com Port as COM0                  NO

Status
Name   Value
Control panel   ON
Radio   ON
Connection status   Disconnected
SIP status   Connect request
Last SIP error   None
RTP/UDP audio status   Disconnected
UDP cmd status   Disconnected
SIP command timeout   0

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Why they do not connect?
thanks

73 Franco I1FQH

i1fqh@yahoo.it
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: sm2o on 2014-02-02, 15:46:53
the data you have pasted in is not correct. There some mixup or confusion.

default IP for Control RRC is 192.168.0.227 and for Radio-RRC 192.168.0.228

SIP contact field is only available in control RRC and there should be the IP of the Radio-RRC

check that the header showing Control in the Control RRC and Radio in the Radio RRC if not read this

http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=1695

/mike
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: i1fqh on 2014-02-02, 16:49:16
Ok tanks Mike for quick reply

and pse exact serial setting is
On:

Remote
COM 1 - Mode 7

Local
Com 1 - Mode 6

????????????????????????????

73 Franco
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: sm2o on 2014-02-02, 17:14:27
the settings for com1 doesn't matter. Make it working before bother with com1

/Mike
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: i1fqh on 2014-02-02, 23:37:25
Ok tnx DONE now I see 1 radio and 1 control (before 2 control)

Tnx very much......

It appears to be working---

last problem (sure not least)

Control switch off remote radio but non on???????

Tnx Franco i1fqh
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: sm2o on 2014-02-03, 08:38:22
K3 is switched on by a hardware signal in the ACC connector. There should be a cable from Radio-RRC I/O connector to the K3 ACC connector and you need to set Out0 = Connect in the Radio-RRC.

73 de mike
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: i1fqh on 2014-02-03, 20:18:35
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tnx Mike for support

Cable is the original supplied and in use..

set of: Out0 = Connect

But remote do not switch on the radio...
Any idea?

Franco i1fqh
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: sm2o on 2014-02-03, 20:22:23
no that's all which is needed, When pressing the power on button on the control K3, the connection will be setup and the remote K3- will start.

73 de mike
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: i1fqh on 2014-02-03, 21:44:24
Tnx

"On and off" on remote is done by same cable?

Now i will test the cable connections. (Tested is OK!!)

No particular hardware setup on the board??

Franco i1fqh 

P.S.

All 2 radios are connected but
RADIO STATUS
is
Name   Value
Radio   OFF
Connection status   OK
SIP status   Connected/transfering
Last SIP error   None

why Radio OFF???Radio is ON!
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: sm2o on 2014-02-03, 22:27:08
The hardware signal is only for power ON. Power off is handled by a data message over the CAT port

Only the cable and the setting for OUT 0 = connect in the Radio-RRC are needed no straps or other things

/mike
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: i1fqh on 2014-02-03, 22:59:36
The hardware signal is only for power ON.

What I have to do to test if hardware works properly??



 Power off is handled by a data message over the CAT port

OFF is OK!

Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: sm2o on 2014-02-03, 23:12:16
You  can measure with a volt meter that pin 7 in the ACC connector goes low, but it's open collector so the cable has to be connected to the K3 when you do the measure.If you have bought a new set uf RRC.s the output is tested and OK. Where have you bought it, not from us as far as I can see ? Do you have cables bought from us or elecraft or have you made them by your self ?

/mike
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: i1fqh on 2014-02-03, 23:49:05
Hello Mike

bought new from you on 2012 - serial n.r. 1258 (twin k3 set with all cables.)
Never used (busy with my work) only tested 1 time -----

Tomorrow evening I try to test with a volt meter pin 7

Tnx and good night

73 Franco
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: i1fqh on 2014-02-04, 22:23:08
You  can measure with a volt meter that pin 7 in the ACC connector goes low, but it's open collector


Hello Mike g.e.

but pin 7 in the ACC connector as seen on page 207 of the user manual is not in use ... cable use pin 1-8-5

Tnx
Franco i1fqh
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: sm2o on 2014-02-04, 22:28:03
The ACC connector is on the back of the radio

/mike
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: i1fqh on 2014-02-04, 22:50:40
Yes is on the back of the radio but pin 7 of the radio ACC it is not phisically connected to the RRC through the cable..
If I not mistaken cable E3c use only pin 1,8,5

OK I have to measure if voltage on pin 7 of the rear ACC radio  connector goes LOW...How Low?

Tnx
Franco

I remenber the problem - Remote radio do not goes On but goes OFF
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: sm2o on 2014-02-04, 22:59:39
ok  it's pin 8 in ACC connector which is power on I miss read it

/mike
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: i1fqh on 2014-02-04, 23:19:04
I opened the radio...difficult (impossible) to measure volt on pin 8.. No other way??

Setting check

CONTROLL IO settings

IN0 mode          l/0
OUT0 mode     l/0   
OUT1 mode     l/0
OUT2 mode   l/0
USB RTS as PTT  DISABLED
   
USB DTR as CW DISABLED


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RADIO CONTROLL IO SETTING

OUT0 mode   CONNECT
OUT0 on/off   OFF
    
OUT1 mode   CONNECT
OUT1 on/off   OFF
    
OUT2 mode   CONNECT
OUT2 on/off   OFF

All  OK??
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: sm2o on 2014-02-04, 23:33:10
Hi

You do not have to open the radio just open the plastic housing on the connector. Only OUT0 need to be set to "Connect". You can look at the status page in the Radio-RRC when the connection is down output 0 should show "low", when you then press the PWR on button on the Control-K3 the yellow LED on the AUX/MIC connectors should both be ON. If you now refresch the status page in the Radio-RRC the Output 0 should show "high" and the remote K3 should start. If you measure on pin 8 it should be high when disconnected and 0V when connected. Email me info so I can login to your Radio-RRC from here.

/mike
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: i1fqh on 2014-02-05, 00:13:50
OK now zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...............


Tnx and good night
Franco i1fqh
73
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: i1fqh on 2014-02-05, 22:18:54
G.e.Mike....

still here..

YES when I press the PWR  button on the Control-K3 the yellow LED on the AUX/MIC connectors (radio controll) goes ON (not the red)

 -Status Output 0 change from low to high

but radio remain off..

Franco


Status of the "radio" remain OFF also when radio is ON
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: sm2o on 2014-02-06, 22:32:37
Ok tghen you need to measure the voltage at the ACC connector. Also check the cable with an ohm meter so it's OK

/ Mike
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: i1fqh on 2014-02-08, 22:15:34
Ok g.e.Mike

When remote power switch "on" no volt on pin 8 acc. connector of radio - when send "off" read 4,7 volt on pin 8 and radio goes off
 
Franco i1fqh
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: sm2o on 2014-02-09, 10:39:08
Ok

Then the RRC and the cables are OK. I will ask Elecraft if they have any idea about why the K3 doesn't start.

If you have two K3s you may change them and see if there is any difference

73 de  mike
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: i1fqh on 2014-02-09, 11:11:02
Yes done....same problem..
Attention when switch ON on remote no Volt(pin8) on radio acc when switch OFF on remore 4.7 volt (on PIN8) radio acc pin..

We need also 4.7 volt to switch On the radio or not???

Franco
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: sm2o on 2014-02-09, 14:51:11
There is a open collector transistor output in the RRC which connect the ACC pin to GND, then the K3 should start. So it's OK, I have no idea about why the K3 do not start up, I have never heard anyone having problem with that either. You mean that nothing happen at all ? No light in the display or anything ?

/mike
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: i1fqh on 2014-02-10, 22:24:21
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...........................

what you think..You can check my radio box from remote??
Last chance - if not working I retourn the box to you for a factory check

Franco i1fqh
Title: Re: K3 + K3 and no connession
Post by: sm2o on 2014-02-10, 22:26:45
Hi

Chek your emails, I have forwarded a email from Elecraft

/mike