Remote Rig
RRC-Nano => General => Topic started by: K1IKE-Joe on 2015-01-23, 15:53:34
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Can a Smartphone be used that does not have an active subscription to a cell carrier? I have access to an older one and wanted to use it to play with RRC-Nano, but don't want to activate cell service. I wanted to use it only on my WiFi.
Do you see any problem doing it this way?
Joe
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Joe,
There is no requirement to use a cell network, the app is not tied to a phone number.
73,
Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX
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Any OS version that needs to be on the device? This is an older phone.
I'm also thinking of buying a tablet with Android OS, as my plan is to use this only with WiFi.
Joe
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Hi
If you use the phone you are planning to use and look for the Apps in Google play, they will only show up if the phone, OS etc are compatible with the App. If they show up you can download and test for a month.
73 de mike
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I am looking for a tablet to put this Application on and found a Nextbook 7 Quad-Core Processor 16GB with Android 4.4 (Kit Kat) OS on it. The tablet is on sale for $59.95US right now at Walmart. Can you tell me if the Nano App will run on Android 4.4 (Kit Kat) OS? I would hate to buy the tablet and find out it is not compatible.
If it is, this would be an inexpensive way for people run Nano on WiFi.
Thanks, Joe, K1ike
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Joe,
Unfortunately there is no way to say 100% without testing a specific tablet or phone, unless someone
else has already tested it and can report their findings.
The following free app will indicate if there are key missing SIP components of the O/S that would prevent it from working:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.akexorcist.udevicefeatures
73,
Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX
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I tried to go to the free app you sent the link for and came up with:
We're sorry, the requested URL was not found on this server.
Maybe a typo in the URL?
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I bought a Nextbook 7 tablet, Andriod version 4.4.2, today at Walmart. I was able to load the two Remoterig apps onto it. I am controlling a TS-480SAT. The app connected to the remote station and gave a readout of the frequency that the TS-480 was last on. Audio works OK. What I can't do is change frequency with either the knob or the direct entry mode. I am able to switch bands, but the readout does not update with new frequency readout. I can tell that the band is switching by the audio change when I use the Band up or down arrows. I believe that I have the comports set up correctly.
I see one big drawback to me using this app. I need to be able to activate the Antenna Tuner in the radio as I move around the band.
Joe
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Have you connected the RS-232 cable from Radio-RRC com2 to the Radio CAT port ?
Have you set the baudrate in the radio to 9600 as you have done in the RRC.
73 de mike
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I just tried the URL and it worked just fine.
As Mike wrote, make sure you have CAT working on the TS-480 to make Nano work. I can send you my CAT checklist if you need it.
73,
Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX
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Interesting enough the URL does not work for me either. Getting: "We're sorry, the requested URL was not found on this server."
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I feel confident that COM2 is working properly as my MicroPC-Client is working with the Kenwood software. The Kenwood software is able to control the TS480 with no problems.
If you look at my previous attachment, you will see that the baud rate is set to 9600 on both COM1 and COM2. I use COM1 at the radio end to control an Ameritron amplifier band switching device. This has been working OK for over 6 months with both the MicroPC--Client and the remote control head.
The interesting thing is that I am getting audio on the Nano App. It is connecting OK, I see a frequency readout that is accurate (only when I first connect), the RX S-meter is working, Band changing is working, Mode is working, volume control working, etc. The only problem appears to be in frequency control and frequency readout. I can see the Nano display change frequency as I tune the dial but the radio does not change frequency. If I band change, I can hear the audio difference between bands, but the display does not update. The display is erratic at times when you tune.
I would be willing to send my information to RemoteRig or Microbit for testing.
The remote site is presently snowed in, so I will have to do my troubleshooting remotely.
Thanks, Joe, K1ike
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FYI, the site radio 1258 is:
Software 2.55
Bootloader 1.9
Compiler 4.6.2
Build Feb 22 2012 09:52:28
I haven't done any upgrades because it has been function fine since the day we bought it.
73, Joe, K1ike
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If you look here:
http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=79 (http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=79)
you will see that version 2.81 added support for RRC-Nano, so I suggest updating to version 2.83 or newer to see if that helps.
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Oh. I noticed that the remote site is not that easy accessible right now. May feel a bit "uncomfortable" to upgrade the RRC under such conditions, though it is very very seldom causing any problems at all ;)
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I only have web server access at this time. I don't know if I can upgrade over this connection, I'll have to look into it. Right now, as I stated, the access road to the site is snowbound and not easily passable at this time. (I'll be 68 in a few days and would like to make it to that day!)
The Control 1258 has the same versions of software in it, I wonder if I will have to upgrade the Control unit to make it compatible with the Radio unit? The Control unit is now 1,000 miles away at another hams QTH. Can I run 2.83 at the Radio 1258 and 2.55 at the Control 1258 without a problem? I'll eventually be able to upgrade the Control 1258.
Joe
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I only have web server access at this time. I don't know if I can upgrade over this connection, I'll have to look into it. Right now, as I stated, the access road to the site is snowbound and not easily passable at this time. (I'll be 68 in a few days and would like to make it to that day!)
The Control 1258 has the same versions of software in it, I wonder if I will have to upgrade the Control unit to make it compatible with the Radio unit? The Control unit is now 1,000 miles away at another hams QTH. Can I run 2.83 at the Radio 1258 and 2.55 at the Control 1258 without a problem? I'll eventually be able to upgrade the Control 1258.
Joe
Upgrading can be done using the RRC's built-in web server(besides using USB). The control RRC would be easier to upgrade since it's "manned" and so could be supervised while doing it. It's very very seldom causing any problems, like I said, but the decision is of course yours if you want to take that risk, no matter how small.
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The existing version 2.55 software is almost 3 years old. Would there be any problem that you can see to upgrade directly to version 2.83? Anything I am missing before I attempt this, like bootloader update or anything?
Thanks, Joe, K1ike
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The existing version 2.55 software is almost 3 years old. Would there be any problem that you can see to upgrade directly to version 2.83? Anything I am missing before I attempt this, like bootloader update or anything?
Thanks, Joe, K1ike
No, it should not cause any problems "jumping that far". Though like I said, there is always a "risk" that something goes wrong, so you must decide if you are willing to take that tiny risk of something going wrong. However, it would make me very surprised if it failed.
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I had very similar situation and turns out that I changed vfo from A to B and then you can't change frequency on display easy fix but cost me little time looking around for the problem .I don't know why radio and Nano loosing communications but after changing to Vfo A all working properly.My setup Kenwood TS-480 hx ,HRD and Nano
Adam
W1ASB
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Perhaps it is caused by the Nano's lack of support for operating split?
73,
Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX
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Yes the Nano do not control VFO B at the moment. VFO A/ VFO B, A->B, SPLIT, REVERSE etc is on the todo list.
73 de mike
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Both RRC1258's upgraded from 2.55 to 2.84 with no problem. 73 and Thanks, Joe
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Both RRC1258's upgraded from 2.55 to 2.84 with no problem. 73 and Thanks, Joe
Fine! And what about the RRC Nano?
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Nextbook 7 tablet, Andriod 4.4.2 KitKat, Nano 1.1.0 just loaded a couple of days ago. Joe
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Nextbook 7 tablet, Andriod 4.4.2 KitKat, Nano 1.1.0 just loaded a couple of days ago. Joe
If meant this you wrote before:
What I can't do is change frequency with either the knob or the direct entry mode
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I don't understand your question. If you are asking if the problem is frequency control, yes this is the problem. Someone mentioned that VFO B may be the problem. I cannot verify that the TS-480 is in VFO A or B at this time.
Joe
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I don't understand your question. If you are asking if the problem is frequency control, yes this is the problem. Someone mentioned that VFO B may be the problem. I cannot verify that the TS-480 is in VFO A or B at this time.
Joe
As I understood it your initial problem was not being able to change frequency. As a starter I then recommended an upgrade of the RRC's firmware as there have been changes made for supporting the RRC Nano apps. You wrote that it has been done and after that your wrote:
"Nextbook 7 tablet, Andriod 4.4.2 KitKat, Nano 1.1.0 just loaded a couple of days ago. Joe".
which I did not understand and so I asked about what happened with the frequency problem after upgrading. Do you follow me now? ;)
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I thought you were asking about the Nano version of software I was using, so I gave you a description of my tablet and version of Android and RCC-Nano software.
With the RCC-1258 now on version 2.84 and the RCC-Nano on version 1.1.0, I am still having the frequency control problem. When I turn the dial the frequency display on the Nano changes but the frequency does not change on the remote radio. Whwn I manually enter a new frequency on the display area the radio does not tune to that frequency.
I hope that clears things up?
Joe
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I thought you were asking about the Nano version of software I was using, so I gave you a description of my tablet and version of Android and RCC-Nano software.
With the RCC-1258 now on version 2.84 and the RCC-Nano on version 1.1.0, I am still having the frequency control problem. When I turn the dial the frequency display on the Nano changes but the frequency does not change on the remote radio. Whwn I manually enter a new frequency on the display area the radio does not tune to that frequency.
I hope that clears things up?
Joe
The radio is in VFO B, and since the app (as of now) does not support that you will see such a behavior.
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The Nano app seems to be working now. VFO A was the answer, so I'll have to be careful to leave the TS-480 in VFO A after use with the control1258 and head.
The next problem that I have is that the radio is overmodulating on transmit. It appears that the mike setting for the control head and the Nano are going to be different.
Things I would like to see:
1) Ability to switch between VFO A and B
2) Mike gain control
3) Ability to activate Antenna tuner
4) Ability to switch between Antenna 1 and 2
The application looks very encouraging. I can see many times that I would use it for, even if just to test the remote base station. I look forward to future improvements.
Thanks to the people at Microbit and Remoterig for the help with this problem.
73, Joe, K1ike
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:)
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Hello,
I did not yet nano operational. My configuration:
- RRC Software 2.85
- IC7100
a) Samsung android 4.4.4 NOTE 4 - When you press the Connect - (opens a briefly connected message) glows green. Nothing reacts not visible frequencies, can not move volumes.
WEB Status at RRC 1258:
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Radio ON
Connection status OK
SIP status Connected / Transfering
Last SIP error None
RTP status Excellent (59)
UDP cmd OK status (45)
SIP command timeout 0
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on the router, everything must be OK. (panel works)
b)
Samsung S6 Android 5.0.2
Not possible install RRCNano service - Google play:
The device is not compatible with this version.
Any idea?
Milan OK1MX
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Hi,
If you PM me the info needed for connection to your radio RRC I can take a look.
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a) Samsung android 4.4.4 NOTE 4 - When you press the Connect - (opens a briefly connected message) glows green. Nothing reacts not visible frequencies, can not move volumes.
Check that your radio is connected to COM2.
b)Samsung S6 Android 5.0.2
Not possible install RRCNano service - Google play:
The device is not compatible with this version.
If the service does not show up its because native SIP and/or VOIP is missing it that model.
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It seems this is relevant since when I tried to connect to your RRC no serial data is received from it:
ICOM
If you have a ICOM connected via a CI-V interface from COM2 you do not need to do any changes in the Radio-RRC. If you have a IC-7100 which you only remote via the control panel you have to connect a CI-V interface like ICOM CT-17 from Radio-RRC COM2 to the Radio-CI-V port. You also have to set up COM2 to mode 2 (ICOM CI-V) and set the same baudrate as you have set the radio to (for example 19200 baud).
The ICOM App is designed with focus on IC-7100 but it uses generic commands so it may work with most modern ICOMs like 7000,7200,7600,7800, 756ProIII etc. Remember that IC-7100 is the only one which can be switched ON/OFF remotely.
Don’t forget to set the CI-V address to the same as set in the radio..
taken from this page: http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=2398 (http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=2398)
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Thanks for the tip, I'll try it.
Milan