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RRC 1258 Support in English => General discussion forum => Topic started by: K0ATZ on 2017-12-01, 16:57:38

Title: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: K0ATZ on 2017-12-01, 16:57:38
I work at a hospital and we had a ts-2000 set up on the 9th floor tied into a RRC-1258 MkII, that hits a router and is fiber optic cable down to our control room on the ground floor, no internet connection hard wired from point A to B.   We really struggle with the ts-2000 and the remote head as it has tons of sub menus.  We have purchased a ts-480 Sat for its simplicity,  I have followed the plans on line and have all the jumpers in place except Jumper #5 which I don't seem to have on my older model.  It calls for it in the ts-480 set up??  What do I need to do?  Proceed or do I need something else?

Thanks
Brian
K0ATZ
Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: dj0qn on 2017-12-01, 19:11:28
Brian,

I know it works just fine on the older model of the RRC. I think they added that jumper later to better support the FT-857 and
ID-880 that should not be grounded, which probably means that the old one was grounded by default (this is my assumption).
Either way, don't worry, it will work just fine.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX
Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: K0ATZ on 2017-12-01, 19:53:47
I just tried it and no good.  I am using the info off page 185 in the manual, for Kenwood ts-480?

Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: dj0qn on 2017-12-01, 20:00:49
I installed quite a few TS-480's using the older RRC and it worked just fine. If I recall,
the settings are identical to the TS-2000, except for the radio type (mode-5) and that you
need to set JMP2 on for the control head.

What exactly did you change that it doesn't work?

73,
Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX

Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: K0ATZ on 2017-12-01, 20:56:04
it had one jumper on the radio side that the book didn't call for and I Jumper 1 off, 2 on 3 on and no number 5 on the control head.

Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: K0ATZ on 2017-12-01, 21:06:12
Am I supposed to do any software type update? 
Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: sm2o on 2017-12-01, 21:13:09
the jumpers s not important for the connectivity, you do not need to update firmware. send me exported settings(html) files from both units

73 de mike
Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: K0ATZ on 2017-12-04, 15:09:21
So I have to hook up the units to the computer and update them?  I just placed them side by side and hooked a short cat cable between them still nothing?  The jumpers are set to the specs on pager 185 of the manual.
Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: dj0qn on 2017-12-04, 16:07:33
Although it makes sense to update to the newest firmware, this will not make any difference as far
as connectivity is concerned. An older firmware will still work for the TS-480.

I am really not sure what you are trying to do. Hooking up a serial cable won't make it work at all,
it needs ethernet connectivity to work. The serial cable must go between the RRC the rig's CAT port.

I suspect that you may have a wiring problem somewhere, please look at the manual. Another common
problem is that the RJ-11 cables used must have all wires connected. In other words, you can not use a
standard telephone cord, it must be a "3-line cord" or make the cable up yourself. The U.S. version of the
TS-480 ships only with one cable (the manual is wrong), so you need to make sure you get a correct
second cable. This may be your problem.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX
Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: K0ATZ on 2017-12-04, 20:00:51
Our IT/ Data guys looked at the factory Kenwood cable and made me two shorter versions which both work fine head to radio, not sure what I am doing wrong on this.
Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: K0ATZ on 2017-12-04, 20:01:57
It has a ethernet box at each end with fiber ran between the boxes, which ties into the Rig Remote boxes.
Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: dj0qn on 2017-12-04, 21:02:02
I am still not sure what you did wrong. The strange thing is that the setup as far as the RRC's are
concerned is virtually identical to what you had before. Except for a few cables and one setting in the
RRC's (and one jumper in the control RRC), there should have been no changes necessary. All the
network and SIP settings, etc. should have been left as is.

I would revert back to how to had it working before and start from scratch. Once you have it working
again, just make those couple of changes and it should work just fine.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX
Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: K0ATZ on 2017-12-04, 21:51:20
What is the one setting you are talking about?  I did the jumper wires and the the jumper pins?  as described on page 185 our IT guys checked my work and they said it looked correct per the paper.
Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: dj0qn on 2017-12-04, 21:54:01
The only setting that needs to be changed is program mode=5.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX
Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: K0ATZ on 2017-12-04, 22:06:05
So do you have to have the boxes hooked up to a computer to do that program change? Sorry I wasn't here when this was installed and am not familiar with this at all.

Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: dj0qn on 2017-12-04, 22:27:18
No, you just go over the network and make the change(s) to the RRC using its web page. No direct
connection is necessary.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX
Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: VK3ALB on 2017-12-04, 23:53:07
Yes you will need your computer with a web browser to change the settings on P186 - specifically the program mode in radio settings.

You need reach both both RRC units using a web browser from your your PC. If you're unsure about how to do that ask your IT guys.

Also, there are important sections of the manual that you must understand because they will help you with the RRC setup.

1.  Step by Step system setup

2.  Configuration with Microbit setup manager

3.  Initial IP setup via USB (will help you find the IP addresses of your RRC's)

4.  Configuration with WEB-Interface (The radio settings will help you with the detail on P186)

Title: Re: Kenwood ts-480 Sat
Post by: partytyme on 2017-12-31, 04:43:44
i am having the same issue switching from a ts 2000 to an ts480  tested all cables with out the boxes hooked up just control head to radio  and they work fine , switched the settings to 5 in the controllers applied it and it don't work hook up the ts2000 and switch the settings back  and it works great i wanted to swap rigs for the same reason as the poster i hope some one can help us