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General discussion forum / Re: Is the RR-1258 still available?
« on: 2024-03-23, 03:39:57 »
Thanks ... I just asked for a quote w/shipping :-)
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General discussion forum / Is the RR-1258 still available?
« on: 2024-03-16, 02:26:29 »
I live in the USA and I am ready to order from a European rep as there seems to be no US or Canada based distributor.
- Is the 1258 mkII still available?
- What's the best way to order a pair?
Thanks, W4AFK
- Is the 1258 mkII still available?
- What's the best way to order a pair?
Thanks, W4AFK
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Configuration, Webswitch 1216H / Re: 1216H and DCU-2 rotator controller
« on: 2021-02-28, 04:19:46 »
The DCU-2 controller is documented here:
https://static.dxengineering.com/global/images/instructions/hgn-dcu-2.pdf.
Per page 8 of the manual, the DCU-2 protocol is the same as for the DCU-1.
So we will order the DCU-1 adapter :-)
https://static.dxengineering.com/global/images/instructions/hgn-dcu-2.pdf.
Per page 8 of the manual, the DCU-2 protocol is the same as for the DCU-1.
So we will order the DCU-1 adapter :-)
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Configuration, Webswitch 1216H / 1216H and DCU-2 rotator controller
« on: 2021-02-25, 05:41:41 »
Hi again ... we have been using the 1216H + 1216L to control an old HAM-IV rotator controller.
We just got our hands on a new rotator and a DCU-2 digital controller (bought and took down a tower/antenna from another ham who was moving).
- I understand that the 1216H doesn't need the 1216L when using a DCU-1
- Can we use the same procedures to connect the DCU-2 as I read for the DCU-1?
- Any special instructions (I read this post: https://www.remoterig.com/forum/index.php?topic=1632.msg6905#msg6905)
Looking forward to responses
We just got our hands on a new rotator and a DCU-2 digital controller (bought and took down a tower/antenna from another ham who was moving).
- I understand that the 1216H doesn't need the 1216L when using a DCU-1
- Can we use the same procedures to connect the DCU-2 as I read for the DCU-1?
- Any special instructions (I read this post: https://www.remoterig.com/forum/index.php?topic=1632.msg6905#msg6905)
Looking forward to responses
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Configuration, Webswitch 1216H / Re: 1216H generates ~10kHz wide interference on 17m
« on: 2021-02-25, 05:33:26 »
Solved ... We had an older version of the "1216L" and followed Mikael's instructions to solder a 100nF capacitor between two ground planes. Result: The RF noise is gone 
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General discussion forum / 1216H + L rotator control RF interference
« on: 2021-01-01, 22:01:28 »
I am posting this here as there doesn't seem to be any activity in the 1216 section
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We have a 1216H and 1216L at our remote site and control a rotator. I've had the 1216 H + L for several years and finally decided to put them to use as originally planned.
First: It does work, and I can remotely control the rotator (see rotator and motor diagram)
The challenge: What we noticed was that the 1216H (or L) generates very strong interference over ~10kHz 17m and on other bands. The interference will drift when the 1216 is powered on then stabilize, but very strong (see attachment for a snapshot of the interference as captured on a FLEX6400 waterfall) <-- This interference appears at many spots and stops moving after a few minutes that teh 1216 is ON.
The interference seems to be coming from the 1216L and not the H.
The interference also changes center frequency when you rotate the antenna. The noise seems to be radiated via control cable and is picked up by the RF cables running up the tower. If we switch to the antennas on the other side of the garage, the interference is still there but much lower.
Has anyone experienced this type of interference and if so, how did you resolve it?
As a temporary solution, we plan to connect the 1216L DC power to one of the 1216H relays so that we can turn the 1216L "OFF" when we don't need the rotator. We would turn the power ON then use the rotator.
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We have a 1216H and 1216L at our remote site and control a rotator. I've had the 1216 H + L for several years and finally decided to put them to use as originally planned.
First: It does work, and I can remotely control the rotator (see rotator and motor diagram)
The challenge: What we noticed was that the 1216H (or L) generates very strong interference over ~10kHz 17m and on other bands. The interference will drift when the 1216 is powered on then stabilize, but very strong (see attachment for a snapshot of the interference as captured on a FLEX6400 waterfall) <-- This interference appears at many spots and stops moving after a few minutes that teh 1216 is ON.
The interference seems to be coming from the 1216L and not the H.
The interference also changes center frequency when you rotate the antenna. The noise seems to be radiated via control cable and is picked up by the RF cables running up the tower. If we switch to the antennas on the other side of the garage, the interference is still there but much lower.
Has anyone experienced this type of interference and if so, how did you resolve it?
As a temporary solution, we plan to connect the 1216L DC power to one of the 1216H relays so that we can turn the 1216L "OFF" when we don't need the rotator. We would turn the power ON then use the rotator.
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Configuration, Webswitch 1216H / 1216H generates ~10kHz wide interference on 17m
« on: 2020-12-21, 20:48:30 »
We have a 1216H and 1216L at our remote site and control a rotator. I've had these for many years and finally decided to put them to use as originally planned.
First: It does work, and we can remotely control the rotator.
The challenge: What we noticed was that the 1216H (or L) generates very strong interference over ~10kHz 17m and on other bands. The interference changes center frequency when you rotate the antenna and also drifts by itself. The 1216H is connected to the same PSU as the radio.
For what follows, please see the attached drawing
Tried with 1 "GND", 3 "+" and 7 "-"
We know it's "radiated" as if we select an antenna that is on the other side of the garage, the "interference" drops a lot.
The problem definitely appears to come from the connection to the indicator pot (3 and 7). If we run up the webswitch and relay card with no cables attached there is no interference.
Any ideas ?
First: It does work, and we can remotely control the rotator.
The challenge: What we noticed was that the 1216H (or L) generates very strong interference over ~10kHz 17m and on other bands. The interference changes center frequency when you rotate the antenna and also drifts by itself. The 1216H is connected to the same PSU as the radio.
For what follows, please see the attached drawing
Tried with 1 "GND", 3 "+" and 7 "-"
We know it's "radiated" as if we select an antenna that is on the other side of the garage, the "interference" drops a lot.
The problem definitely appears to come from the connection to the indicator pot (3 and 7). If we run up the webswitch and relay card with no cables attached there is no interference.
Any ideas ?
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General discussion forum / Re: TS-480SAT - Control head to 1258 or body doesn't work with COTS RJ12 cable?
« on: 2018-10-01, 01:43:33 »
Small world LOL. I know Cecil so I'll say hi. Along with PARC, I am a member of the PAPA system and use the analog, DMR and D-Star repeaters.
As for Naples or Carlsbad, well Naples is cheaper. I lived in West Melbourne for ~8 years and just relocated back to EXPENSIVE SoCal :-). I went through the last two hurricanes (Cat 1 on our side). The second one damaged our roof and we were almost flooded (6 more inches) as the retention ponds overflowed and they could not pump the water into the canals as they were also over capacity. We ran our generator for 36+ hours so we didn't lose any food and kept cool with some fans. This is nothing compared to what the west cost of the peninsula got. I hope you did not sustain too much damage.
This being said, although I am not thrilled about the cost of living over here, I do prefer the SoCal climate over the hot, humid and stormy Florida coast. Our daughter lives around 20 miles south of us (Mira Mesa), which also compensates.
I will report back to this thread regarding my data connections so that others can have reference.
73 and I'll share non thread stuff and Cecil's response via E-mail.
As for Naples or Carlsbad, well Naples is cheaper. I lived in West Melbourne for ~8 years and just relocated back to EXPENSIVE SoCal :-). I went through the last two hurricanes (Cat 1 on our side). The second one damaged our roof and we were almost flooded (6 more inches) as the retention ponds overflowed and they could not pump the water into the canals as they were also over capacity. We ran our generator for 36+ hours so we didn't lose any food and kept cool with some fans. This is nothing compared to what the west cost of the peninsula got. I hope you did not sustain too much damage.
This being said, although I am not thrilled about the cost of living over here, I do prefer the SoCal climate over the hot, humid and stormy Florida coast. Our daughter lives around 20 miles south of us (Mira Mesa), which also compensates.
I will report back to this thread regarding my data connections so that others can have reference.
73 and I'll share non thread stuff and Cecil's response via E-mail.
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General discussion forum / Re: TS-480SAT - Control head to 1258 or body doesn't work with COTS RJ12 cable?
« on: 2018-09-30, 23:41:49 »
Thanks Mitch, that will be very helpful as I start the setup of the DATA part before moving the radio, RR Radio & PSU to the shed :-)
FYI - RJ12 cable issue - It WAS the two cheap cables I bought at Fry's. The bag says "RJ12 6 pin, 6 connections" but neither cable worked. I even tried tightening the connector to no avail (used my RJ11/12 crimp tool). I am certain that if checked each wire that I would have found some "anomalies".
So ... while at Fry's I bought the last bag of RJ12 (6P) connectors they had and wired my own 6P6C cable. The result? It works great!
Moral - Don't assume that you cannot have two cables from the same 2-cable bag that are both defective. A "good price" is NOT always a bargain LOL.
FYI - RJ12 cable issue - It WAS the two cheap cables I bought at Fry's. The bag says "RJ12 6 pin, 6 connections" but neither cable worked. I even tried tightening the connector to no avail (used my RJ11/12 crimp tool). I am certain that if checked each wire that I would have found some "anomalies".
So ... while at Fry's I bought the last bag of RJ12 (6P) connectors they had and wired my own 6P6C cable. The result? It works great!
Moral - Don't assume that you cannot have two cables from the same 2-cable bag that are both defective. A "good price" is NOT always a bargain LOL.
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General discussion forum / Re: TS-480SAT - Control head to 1258 or body doesn't work with COTS RJ12 cable?
« on: 2018-09-30, 08:09:22 »
FIXED !!!!
The issue was MY ERROR!
When I wired the jumpers I had wrongly assumed that the MIC/AUX side was towards the other side so I flipped the wiring.
After I re-read the instructions and looked at the picture on page 22/247 I realized my (stupid) mistake.
Result - Apart from the 6P6C 3rd party cable (which I will build on Sunday), everything works now for the basic setup.
I want to thank you for your patience and your feedback as it had me rethink what I was doing and solve the core issues.
===Next=====
My next configuration will be for CAT control and to build an audio I/O cable to be able to use the setup for audio/computer based data (FT8, JT65, WSPR, etc.).
I need to connect the computer to the "RR Control" so I plan to use the USB port for radio control and a DB9F-DB9F 1-1 from the "RR Radio" COM2 to the radio's COM port. That should take care of radio control.
For audio I/O - On the "RR Control", I plan to build a custom RJ45 MIC cable to feed audio from the computer to the radio, and use the SP(eaker) output for the audio IN on the computer. I will need to match the audio I/O levels to/from the computer but I don't have any other option as the USB port on the RR Control doesn't support audio.
I don't believe I need anything on the RR Radio side as long as the levels are OK on the RR Control side and that I have computer control (i.e. configured properly).
I am open to any suggestions/configurations :-).
If you prefer, my E-mail is w4afk.home(at)gmail.com
The issue was MY ERROR!
When I wired the jumpers I had wrongly assumed that the MIC/AUX side was towards the other side so I flipped the wiring.
After I re-read the instructions and looked at the picture on page 22/247 I realized my (stupid) mistake.
Result - Apart from the 6P6C 3rd party cable (which I will build on Sunday), everything works now for the basic setup.
I want to thank you for your patience and your feedback as it had me rethink what I was doing and solve the core issues.
===Next=====
My next configuration will be for CAT control and to build an audio I/O cable to be able to use the setup for audio/computer based data (FT8, JT65, WSPR, etc.).
I need to connect the computer to the "RR Control" so I plan to use the USB port for radio control and a DB9F-DB9F 1-1 from the "RR Radio" COM2 to the radio's COM port. That should take care of radio control.
For audio I/O - On the "RR Control", I plan to build a custom RJ45 MIC cable to feed audio from the computer to the radio, and use the SP(eaker) output for the audio IN on the computer. I will need to match the audio I/O levels to/from the computer but I don't have any other option as the USB port on the RR Control doesn't support audio.
I don't believe I need anything on the RR Radio side as long as the levels are OK on the RR Control side and that I have computer control (i.e. configured properly).
I am open to any suggestions/configurations :-).
If you prefer, my E-mail is w4afk.home(at)gmail.com
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General discussion forum / Re: TS-480SAT - Control head to 1258 or body doesn't work with COTS RJ12 cable?
« on: 2018-09-30, 07:13:41 »
Thanks again for your help. I added some extra text to my previous message while you were responding. My 480 is July 2008 vintage (S.N 00400107)
Jumpers - I did use needle nose pliers and a lighted magnifying glass to insert the jumpers. Double checked them too. I used the diagram on page 186/247 of the RR manual and followed that pattern.
To play it safe, I will remove all jumpers and carefully rewire.
Jumpers - I did use needle nose pliers and a lighted magnifying glass to insert the jumpers. Double checked them too. I used the diagram on page 186/247 of the RR manual and followed that pattern.
To play it safe, I will remove all jumpers and carefully rewire.
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General discussion forum / Re: TS-480SAT - Control head to 1258 or body doesn't work with COTS RJ12 cable?
« on: 2018-09-30, 06:51:15 »
Mitch ... the 6P6C cables I have don't work so I'll build one (need to buy some 6P6C connectors at Fry's on Sunday).
- I made the suggested SIP changes
- I borrowed the control head to RR1258 cable from my working system and connected it to the new system.
Result: It "almost" works. Radio turns on and I have full control. However, PTT from the mic doesn't work. (This also tells me that the two cables I bought have something wrong. I'll build my own cable)
Here is what I see:
- I connect the mic to the radio's body and PTT works
- I connect the mic to the RR Control unit and there is no PTT from the mic (I can key from the front panel)
Note: I used the RJ45 jumper cable that was provided with the RR1258 to jumper between the RR Radio and the radio itself. I also had a set of Kenwood MIC cable adapters from RR (RJ45 to Circular M and RJ45 to Circular F) so I even tried that cable after mating the Circular M-F connectors. Same results - No PTT from the radio
- I reconfigured RR Control and RR Radio to Config Type 2 (was 1) with no change in the results (no PTT from the mic). FYI - Radio's S/N is 00400107 (July 2008 vintage)
- I re-read the steps in the manual and compared to my functional system but I can't figure out why the PTT doesn't work when the MIC is connected to the RR Control's AUX/MIC port.
Any suggestions?
- I made the suggested SIP changes
- I borrowed the control head to RR1258 cable from my working system and connected it to the new system.
Result: It "almost" works. Radio turns on and I have full control. However, PTT from the mic doesn't work. (This also tells me that the two cables I bought have something wrong. I'll build my own cable)
Here is what I see:
- I connect the mic to the radio's body and PTT works
- I connect the mic to the RR Control unit and there is no PTT from the mic (I can key from the front panel)
Note: I used the RJ45 jumper cable that was provided with the RR1258 to jumper between the RR Radio and the radio itself. I also had a set of Kenwood MIC cable adapters from RR (RJ45 to Circular M and RJ45 to Circular F) so I even tried that cable after mating the Circular M-F connectors. Same results - No PTT from the radio
- I reconfigured RR Control and RR Radio to Config Type 2 (was 1) with no change in the results (no PTT from the mic). FYI - Radio's S/N is 00400107 (July 2008 vintage)
- I re-read the steps in the manual and compared to my functional system but I can't figure out why the PTT doesn't work when the MIC is connected to the RR Control's AUX/MIC port.
Any suggestions?
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Configuration, RRC 1258 / Re: How to configure RR-1258 w/WiFi for use on internal LAN?
« on: 2018-09-30, 05:08:34 »
Thanks Mitch
- I'll use unique set of port numbers different from the first set. No port forwarding needed :-)
- Although I do use DynDNS to link to my Florida remote (1st RR1258 set), I do not use it for my internal network setup I am configuring (2nd RR1258 set).
I will try you suggestions and report back.
- I'll use unique set of port numbers different from the first set. No port forwarding needed :-)
- Although I do use DynDNS to link to my Florida remote (1st RR1258 set), I do not use it for my internal network setup I am configuring (2nd RR1258 set).
I will try you suggestions and report back.
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General discussion forum / Re: TS-480SAT - Control head to 1258 or body doesn't work with COTS 6P6C cable?
« on: 2018-09-30, 05:02:26 »
Maybe I wasn't clear enough. As noted in my pinouts, the RJ12 cable I have has all 6 wires connected end-to-end, no crossover. Now you are right that I should have called it 6P6C.
As I also noted in my original message, the stock TS480 control head to radio cable doesn't have wire #3 connected (total 5 wires). My "6P6C" cable has all 6.
As I also noted in my original message, the stock TS480 control head to radio cable doesn't have wire #3 connected (total 5 wires). My "6P6C" cable has all 6.
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Configuration, RRC 1258 / How to configure RR-1258 w/WiFi for use on internal LAN?
« on: 2018-09-29, 10:33:14 »
TS-480SAT, RR-1258mkII w/WiFi
I cannot get the control head to run the radio. The RR1258 sends out multiple beeps when I press the control head's power button.
- Router confirms IP addresses assigned
- I set DHCP to ON then tried OFF on the control & remote 1258 ... no difference
I already have another set of 1258 that I use via the Internet to remote control a radio. But this time I want to control it via WiFi and inside my network.
I also compared my functioning RR1258 settings (also running a remote TS-480SAT via the Internet) to make sure that the core settings are the same.
I must be missing something very basic here.
- Do I need to do port forwarding on the router even if I am staying inside the network? I do have port forwarding on my wired remote systems' router (2682 miles away). Do I also need it for inside my network?
- Can I use the same UDP/SIP/etc ports as for my wired remote?
I also noticed that in the STATUS screen of the control unit, it says that the Other Party's IP is it's own. On the Radio unit it says Other Party's IP is 0.0.0.0.
On the functioning wired system they reflect the other party's IP address.
By the way, my goal is to setup the radio in a sheltered shed without any wires. Don't know if the AC is on the same circuit so I bought a pair of 1258's with the WiFi modules as I was told it was doable.
I cannot get the control head to run the radio. The RR1258 sends out multiple beeps when I press the control head's power button.
- Router confirms IP addresses assigned
- I set DHCP to ON then tried OFF on the control & remote 1258 ... no difference
I already have another set of 1258 that I use via the Internet to remote control a radio. But this time I want to control it via WiFi and inside my network.
I also compared my functioning RR1258 settings (also running a remote TS-480SAT via the Internet) to make sure that the core settings are the same.
I must be missing something very basic here.
- Do I need to do port forwarding on the router even if I am staying inside the network? I do have port forwarding on my wired remote systems' router (2682 miles away). Do I also need it for inside my network?
- Can I use the same UDP/SIP/etc ports as for my wired remote?
I also noticed that in the STATUS screen of the control unit, it says that the Other Party's IP is it's own. On the Radio unit it says Other Party's IP is 0.0.0.0.
On the functioning wired system they reflect the other party's IP address.
By the way, my goal is to setup the radio in a sheltered shed without any wires. Don't know if the AC is on the same circuit so I bought a pair of 1258's with the WiFi modules as I was told it was doable.