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pd0swl

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Wlan/password settings via Android?
« on: 2014-08-11, 16:36:22 »
Hi,

While travelling I have carried my RRC and TS-480/IC-7100 control head several times to different locations.
The RRC and head form a nice compact travelling kit, however....

A laptop&PSU always has to come along **only to adjust the RRC network settings** on location!
There is nothing else I use the good old laptop for anymore ;-)

Would it be possible to just edit the Wlan/password/IP settings from an android device or even via direct wifi?
If only the Wlan access settings could be done via Android, all other settings would be available via the webbrowser anyway.

Would save a few kg on hand luggage.

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Paul
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Re: Wlan/password settings via Android?
« Reply #1 on: 2014-08-15, 17:21:07 »
So what I mean is a highly "stripped" setup manager on Android.

Only to set the network, wlan and password settings.

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Paul
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Jan (Microbit)

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Re: Wlan/password settings via Android?
« Reply #2 on: 2014-08-18, 08:46:04 »
So what I mean is a highly "stripped" setup manager on Android.

Only to set the network, wlan and password settings.

73
Paul
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It's a great idea, which of course requires a way for the phone to connect to the RRC and since the wlan is not accessible in "infrastructure" mode then it would have to be some other way of communication like USB or wlan "ad-hoc".

But since both the RRC and the phone are USB devices(none of them being a USB host) the phone would have to support USB OTG, and still it might not be possible to make it work.

Wlan "ad-hoc" mode could be used by the RRC as it has hardware support for that, but it might not be supported by the phones, and so that would not work either.

We'll have to see if something comes up making it possible  8)
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Re: Wlan/password settings via Android?
« Reply #3 on: 2014-08-18, 15:00:52 »
Hi Jan,

I see the direct access difficulty.

Most Androids offer something like "wifi direct".
I think IOS as well.

I use a Belkin Wemo wifi networked switch which can boot up in such a "wifi direct" mode, to make the network settings via Wifi without AP.

On the RRC a certain click sequence of the reset button could be usable to enter a wifi access mode.

Just some thoughts from a happy user who likes to reduce his Microsoft dependancy :-)

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Paul
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Re: Wlan/password settings via Android?
« Reply #4 on: 2014-08-18, 15:09:03 »
Yes, there is "Wifi direct". But unfortunately that is not supported by the RRC.
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Re: Wlan/password settings via Android?
« Reply #5 on: 2014-08-18, 16:12:19 »
Or eg the WiFi Module. As it is a module we have no control of it's internal firmware, we cannot add functions, or change any functions.

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Re: Wlan/password settings via Android?
« Reply #6 on: 2014-08-18, 16:18:30 »
Or eg the WiFi Module. As it is a module we have no control of it's internal firmware, we cannot add functions, or change any functions.

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The Wifi module is part of the RRC and therefore the term "RRC" includes it too  8)
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Re: Wlan/password settings via Android?
« Reply #7 on: 2014-08-18, 17:54:09 »
I also see quite some topics on Android OTG to ethernet adapters.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ethernet-10-100-USB-or-OTG-RJ45-adapter-Network-Lan-for-Windows-or-Android-Tablet-PC/708862392.html

Ideally, it would be good to have both RRC and Wifi built into the IC7100 head with a wifi antenna on the back.
The LCD touch screen could have a network settings menu :-)

I know, I get completely carried away now...

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Paul
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Re: Wlan/password settings via Android?
« Reply #8 on: 2014-08-19, 06:42:40 »
Don't know if it will work (just got my remote kit yesterday), but have you tried this:

At home (PC available): configure your mobile phone as a hotspot and make sure the RRC is able to connect to it (using the PC to configure it).

Then when you are not at home: Use your phone to scan for available WiFi networks (as the RRC does not support this through the web interface) and try to connect to the desired one.

Next step: Setup you mobile phone as a hotspot again and let the RRC connect to it. You now have IP connectivity with the RRC and should be able to use the browser on your phone to connect to the RRC and configure WiFi.

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Re: Wlan/password settings via Android?
« Reply #9 on: 2014-08-19, 12:40:21 »
Didn't think of this!

Will try on my next trip.

Tnx
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Re: Wlan/password settings via Android?
« Reply #10 on: 2014-08-19, 22:51:48 »
Just tried it out, it works.

Configured my Android phone as a hotspot. After that I was able to connect to the RRC at http://<ip-adress RRC:8071>.

The webinterface then allows you to change any setting (including WiFi).

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Re: Wlan/password settings via Android?
« Reply #11 on: 2014-08-20, 08:39:39 »
Just tried it out, it works.

Configured my Android phone as a hotspot. After that I was able to connect to the RRC at http://<ip-adress RRC:8071>.

The webinterface then allows you to change any setting (including WiFi).
Excellent thinking! ;D
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Re: Wlan/password settings via Android?
« Reply #12 on: 2014-08-20, 12:34:33 »
Nice!

If a hotspot is not possible on the mobile device I was thinking to use one of those miniature wifi extenders as hotspot. You could pre-program this in the RRC wlan list and use it to reach the RRC webbrowser.

Enough possibilities to leave Windows at home :-)

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Paul
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