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General / Re: NANO ...what is BT?
« on: 2017-03-25, 23:19:01 »
No one answered!  What is BT please on the Nano next to PTT.  The PTT is explained but not BT???


Feature Requests / RRC-Nano with K3
« on: 2017-02-21, 04:49:12 »
I am using the RRC-Nano with my K3 and am using a Samsung Galaxy SM-J320V.  It installed with no problems and was easy to figure out how to use.  I have a fixed IP.  I have spent a lot of time and money having a very nice station at W0SD so this is just the coolest that I can use my station from all over the world traveling, RVing, boating, portable, etc.  Being able to do CW and having some memories would be nice but it is extremely useful as is.  Great for keeping in touch, making schedules and keeping track of DX-Peditions.

A nice product that I will use a lot!  Ed W0SD

Hi Mitch,
I will post again in case someone is searching for solutions to using remote rig from hot spots.  Another alternative to free hot spots is to create your own hot spot with your cell phone.  I am using a Verizon Hot Spot as part of my Verizon Cell Phone Plan.  The down side is there is the cost for the DATA but the cost of DATA is coming down with many having unlimited DATA.  I don't have unlimited DATA with my plan but I can stay under my allocation with limited hot spot useage. The upside is that it is secure, the speed is very good and as long as you have a good cellular connection you don't need to "fight" a poor Wi-Fi signal at a hot spot, dead spots or no Wi-Fi signal, lack off connectivity, being very slow, security, etc.  You just activate the hot spot on your phone and lay the phone nearby and connect to it using wi-fi in your remote rig control box and your password.

One simple option is to install the Wi-Fi option in the remote rig control box.  You can then connect your control box to the cell phone hot spot you use via wi-fi.  The speed seems very good.  This gets away for the public free wi-fi problem of connecting your control box which requires a LAN connection.  If you don't want to get the Wi-Fi option for your remote rig control box then you can use ICS or a Bridge.  You could use ICS or the Bridge to the free Wi-Fi hot spot or you can set up your own hot spot with your cell phone and use your DATA allocation.  Information on ICS and using a bridge is posted in this same thread.

It goes without saying but you can now set up your own hot spot where ever you want or even mobile as long as you have good cellular coverage where you are at.  For boats or RV's  or camping or places that don't have Wi-Fi this is a way to do it especially if you already have an unlimited DATA plan.  I have found remote rig does not take a lot of DATA when used in a limited fashion.  You can plug in your phone if battery time is a concern.  In the case of Verizon I can increase the DATA for that month and any extra carries over.

Verizon blocks SIP port 5060 so as remote rig says don't use port 5060.  I am no network Guru so if I can make this work you can also!  I have done ICS.  I have not done bridging but I am sure Mitch can answer any farther questions you might have on bridging. 

The easiest is the Android phone app but it is limited in use.  What I have been able to do with the Wi-Fi cell phone hot spot is to use my Mini K3/0 is not limited and now I can do RTTY, sound card digital, CW, SSB and repeaters with my K3.  If you use different radio's you have similar options.  I also do it with my TM-V71A dual banders.  It would also works well with HF remote head radios like the TS-480.


Great!  I will look into this as a back up to my ICS plan.  I also am looking at using my smart phone as a hot spot and using the control RRC box with Wi-Fi and connect to my cellular hot spot using 2.54 ghz.  It obviously will use some data so I have to see how well it goes.  In my case I am retired so I would not be doing this from a lot of places and data useage is rapidly coming down in price.

As you know a lot of the motel hot spots are not so great!!!!  Some like McDonalds seem to work well but are not so secure.

Again thanks Mitch!  Down the road a bit I will report on my findings!


Hi Mitch,
I understand.  Can you sent me a check list for using the netgear bridge router?


More info from W0SD.  The information posted by Charlie KB8BWE is good information but for me it was missing something I probably should of understood and certainly if you read about  ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) in Windows you see it is necessary to have two adapter cards activated.  You need to activate/enable a LAN adapter card and a wireless card at a hotspot.   The LAN adapter card can be connected to a LAN switch or for a hotspot hook up it can be connected from your Computer LAN connection to the Control RRC box. For what I am trying to do with remote rig is to use the least amount of equipment possible so I don't want to use a LAN switch.   As Charlie says in this case with no switch it needs to be a cross over cable.  This LAN adapter will not be connected to the Internet but will say it is working properly and it should say "allow your computer to access resources on a Microsoft network".

The other thing I found was when setting up the wireless adapter you also need to choose the other LAN connection adapter we activated/enabled. You may have to chose it from a drop down menu if you have others.  You should now be ready to go but in case DHCP is not activated in the control DHCP box you can use the mini USB cable with Microbit manager and browse to the control box and be sure it is set to DHCP.

If you get an error try windows connection trouble shooter and they may resolve it.  If it is XP you can do the release and then renew as posted here.  As far as I know Win10 is pretty much the same as Win7Pro but I am going on what I read and I might not be understanding something correctly.

Hi Mitch,

I am trying to use ICS as described below in a post but it does not work for me.  I am using Win7Pro.
I am having good results using ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) in Windows 7. Go into Network & Sharing Center and then to Adapter settings. Right-click the wireless connection, and under the sharing tab, enable sharing. Plug a CROSSOVER Ethernet cable from your notebook's Ethernet jack to the RRC-Control box. A standard Ethernet cable will NOT work.
Make sure to enable DHCP on the RRC box.

Connect to the hotel's wifi with the notebook's browser, and give it whatever info they ask for, like your room number, or sometimes just "agree" to their policies, and make sure the notebook is able to access the internet. Your RRC box should be able to get out to the internet now.

Charlie KB8BWE

So Mitch I believe you are telling me I need a hardware bridge external to my Laptop.  Can you give me some details please?


Can the WI-Fi in the remote RRC box connect at 5 ghz or only 2.54 ghz.  I seem to be finding more and more hot spots are not using 2.54 ghz but only 5 ghz.


Hardware, Cabling, Installations / Re: Controlling K3
« on: 2011-12-16, 02:32:10 »
Certainly if you change enough pages in the manual then that will make the drawing correct. I know mistakes happen but they have there consequences.  In this case it took me until the middle of the night and all the next day to figure  it out and then only thanks to a post by IN3ASW.

To me it makes the most sense to leave cw as the tip and RTTY as the  ring(middle portion) This way you can use a normal plug for CW.  Leaving the cable the same on Page 169 of the A15 manual should accomplish that I believe. The way I ended up to make CW work I needed to build a special cable that used the ring going to the tip in the K3  CW straight key jack.

Anyway be really careful if using Manual A15 as there are some mistakes that caused me  a lot of frustration.  The good news is Mike is very helpful  and there are some very good posts that can be very valuable and the manual keeps getting better.   

Thanks Mike,


Hardware, Cabling, Installations / K3 RTTY
« on: 2011-12-15, 06:52:24 »
K3 and RTTY
Unfortunately there are a couple of things in the A15Nov 2011 manual that are not correct or it would be pretty easy.  First of all the cable in the K3 section of the manual labeled RRC1258MKII I/O RJ45 to Radio ACC port HDD SUB-15POL Male is not correct.

For keying FSK it should be Pin 3 on the RJ45 and “NOT” pin 6 and it goes to Pin 1 (FSK) of the K3 ACC jack. The rest of the cable is correct.

On the Remote Radio side under I/O it should be OUT1 Mode Keying and OUT2 MODE Baudot/45(INV)

These changes are not reflected in the Rev A15-2011 Nov.01 Manual other than on Page 17 the I/O listing is correct.

Please note you are going to have to make your own cable from the PAD out of the Remote Radio box to the K3.  The sleeve of the remote radio jack has to go to the tip of the straight key jack in the K3 and ground to ground.  The tip of the remote radio jack is RTTY so I just cut off the wire from it and did not use it.

This information applies to doing RTTY with the "TWIN" setup or remotely using a single K3. 


Hardware, Cabling, Installations / Re: Controlling K3
« on: 2011-12-09, 05:20:53 »
Progress continues with getting the K3 TWIN setup working. I have posted all the details on the Elecraft reflector but here is a cut and paste of it:
I have the Elecraft "TWIN" setup working with the Microbit control and
remote boxes. The instructions in the Micorbit RRC-1258 MII manual are
pretty good. The URL is The one thing that is not
clear IMHO is the last line of the setup for the K3 TWIN:
COM2 Mode listed as Logical Parallel with COM0 is not in the radio
settings but are in the Serial settings and are for both the control and
remote(radio) boxes.

It is also not mentioned that USB used as COM0 should be YES under the
Control Radio Settings and USB used as COM1 and USB used as COM2 should
be NO.

One thing I missed without going over things a second time is that the
cable between the Control box COM2 and the K3 CAT is a cross over. The
cable between the remote box COM2 and the K3 CAT on the remote K3 is a
straight cable.

The Microbit documentation never talks about the information from
Elecraft on getting in and out of the TERM mode. This was necessary for
me to get things working. Once it is running then it happens
automatically unless you get out of TERM and back to NORM.
You need the cables as describe in the Microbit documentation.

It is very impressive and works "SUPER" and makes remoting over the
Internet or over LAN a breeze once you get by some lack of documentation.

For logging/control one can use say COM1 from your computer and a serial
cable to COM1 on the Control Microbit box. These settings are discussed
under Logging or computer control, RTTY etc. in the Microbit manual but
IMHO they are not complete. If you want to use a serial cable between
your computer for logging and control and use say COM 1 out of your
computer. Set your logging control program to the same in this case COM1
and be sure the baud rate is the same everyplace. You still leave USB to
COM0 as YES. Be sure to do what the Micorbit manual says in regards to
the mode 7 settings.

If you want to use your USB cable to the RCC control unit for
logging/control and not have a serial cable then you have to set USB to
COM0 to NO and set USB to COM1 to YES and set your logging/control for
the virtual COM port that your computer has for COM 1 if that is what
you are using.


If you want to control a K3 remotely using the Microbit boxes, ie not
use two K3's but just the remote one I have documented that in the
Microbit forum and how to control one rotor and do CW. I have RTTY to do
yet and control of rotors and antenna switching outside the Microbit
boxes. You can do virtually everything with TXR manager in regards to
controlling the K3.

The "TWIN set up is very nice but you have to spend the money for a
second K3. This makes the prospect of a K3 (0)with no RF that Eric
mentioned very interesting! It would be nice to have something less
valuable and smaller to carry with you and most things are a bit easier
to do on the control radio although there are a few things on TRX
manager that are IMHO easier than the radio such as band changes.  I
need to do a lot more before I form much of an opinion on way or the
other. Obviously the "TWIN" set us is the easiest!

It is possibly I made an error someplace in this information but I have
tried to be very careful. Anyway I do have it working all OK and it is
impressive so it can be done. It is just a matter of getting the correct
settings.  What you can do with remoting has got to be a very big deal
over the upcoming months as it is rapidly getting a lot easier to do. It
is very real solution to problems a lot of hams have with noise of all
kinds, RFI, lack of antennas, restrictions, on the road a lot, needing
to be at different locations and the list goes on, the hassle of taking
a radio various places; especially if there will be a K3 (O) or you can
do it without the "TWINS".


Hardware, Cabling, Installations / Rotor Control
« on: 2011-12-02, 22:15:13 »
The RRC-1258MKII manual is pretty good but is misses a few things that I had to get help on. In regards to controlling a rotor over the Internet here are the setting I use with some help from Mike. With just the manual you will never get it working unless you have your own knowledge of how this works and understand what Micorbit is doing or are extremely lucky at guessing!

I have the Idiom press RS-232 interface " ROTOR EZ" and I am using it with a Hygain Tailtwister.

I am controlling it with Logic 8(Could be TRX Manager)  and have it working on my computer using COM1 over the Internet.
Following is how I have it set up. You need to choose the correct rotor RS-232 interface.

In the RCC control box
My COM1 serial settings are:
- mode 3
- 4800 baud
- 8 data bits
- 1 stop bit
- parity 0-off
- rts/cts no
- terminator 00
- USB, no

On the control end I have straight cable from my Computer COM port on the laptop which is COM1 and I have Logic 8(could be TRX Manager) set for COM1 for rotor control.  This cable goes to COM1 on the RCC Control box.  On the remote radio box I am using the cable with pins  2 and 3 and 7 and 8 crossed over as in the manual. This cable goes from COM1 on the radio box to the Rotor RS-232 port.

In the RCC radio box my Serial COM1 settings:

- mode 3
- 4800 baud
- 8 data bits
- 1 stop bit
- parity 0-off
- rts/cts no
- terminator 00

I am using V2.46 software

I am able to control and do logging with my K3 using TRX Manager or Logic 8 with TRX Manager using COM2. That set up I have posted under K3


I should add it is necessary to look at  the device manager in your computer to see what COM port on your computer is assigned to COM2 in the RCC boxes. I my case it was COM5 so that is what I needed to use for a COM port in my control program and logging program. I happened to use Logic 8 and TRX Manager.  I also used Writelog successfully.

It might be helpful to understand for what I have described so far in regards to my setup that there is no cable between my computer and COM2 on the control box. It is all done via USB out of the computer I am using for control, logging and sending CW.


Hardware, Cabling, Installations / Re: Controlling K3
« on: 2011-12-01, 03:09:08 »
K3 Settings that work:

Here is what works with my K3 using the RRC-1258 MKII's.  The RCC-1258 MKII control box needs to be set as per the setting in the manual for general Elecraft.  In addition(not documented) the serial settings need to be set for COM1 to be Inactive.  COM2  needs to be set for Mode 4 and you must use USB COM port as COM2.

For the remote radio box it needs to be set as per the setting in the manual for general Elecraft. In addition(not documented) the serial setting need to be set for Com1 to be inactive. COM2 needs to be set for Mode 4.

In the Microbit set up be sure that DHCP is not checked. You need to be able to connect to both boxes using your browser. If you can not then something is wrong on the local test setup.

CW Settings:
CW setup for the RRC-1258 MKII's for the control and remote radio box are per the manual.  In addition(not documented) in the IO section set  I/O out2 mode Keyer in the remote radio unit.

If any of this is not clear feel free to e-mail me and I will try and help with the K3 and RCC-1258 MKII boxes.  I can not help with other set ups.

Be sure and do an apply settings so they are saved!!!!

I am also able to use Logic 8 for logging and CW and TRX Manager with the K3 over the Internet for radio control, So far we have had excellent success with K3 control using TRX Manager over the Internet. There is a problem with Logic 8 controlling VFO B and swapping VFO's with Logic 8.  This is supposed to be fixed in Logic 9.

So far on the air reports indicate all is working well!  I have not done RTTY yet.

I am waiting for the Elecraft firmware release to use the K3 TWIN set up and will post on that after I have it running.. 


Hardware, Cabling, Installations / Controlling K3
« on: 2011-11-23, 22:08:07 »
I have a RCC 1258 MKII control and radio set. am able to connect to each unit with my browser and I am able to go to Status and connect and I have audio coming from the K3.

What I need help with is no matter what I try I can not control the radio with programs like Logic 8. How should I do this.  Can some one send me a check list of how to do this please?


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